Casual Temple

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00:00:02 Merrily

Welcome to the Casual Temple podcast episode 21, and I'm your host, Merrily Duffy, at the Casual Temple. We're not just casual observers, we're seekers, explorers and believers. Our mission is to unravel the threads that connect us to the unseen world of spirit, and how that empowers us to know our true selves a little favor.

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00:00:43 Merrily

We're delving into the ancient realms of animism, folklore and astrology, which are living, breathing forces that shape our existence. Did you know our countries have astrological, Natal charts? We learn how Astrocartography is a useful tool to use in everyday life, so stay tuned to the Casual Temple podcast where the mundane meets the mystical.

00:01:03 Merrily

Welcome to the Casual Temple. Our guest today is Oli Andrei Olar, who is a practical kabbalist and paranormal professional who specializes in astrology, astrocartography and divination readings to assist and guide seekers through their paranormal experiences.

00:01:20 Merrily

Thank you, Oli, for taking the time to chat with us and really looking forward to learning more about you and your perspective on the unseen world.

00:01:29 Oli

My pleasure is all mine and it's an honor.

00:01:32 Oli

Thank you. Thank you.

00:01:34 Merrily

Ohh gosh. Well usually just kind of start to kick off the conversation. Sort of like what event in your life would you say shaped the direction of your current spiritual path to go as far as you want to?

00:01:50 Oli

Thank you for that question, Mary. I mean.

00:01:53 Oli

As everybody, I I don't know about you, I can think.

00:01:58 Oli

Of the first dream I've ever had.

00:02:03 Oli

Which was an experience, very archetypal. It was very steeped in.

00:02:13 Oli

The the the color I I use in my branding and what I felt is things around me that I could not see or interact with and that was the path that pushed me towards where I am and.

00:02:31 Oli

Experience every day it's.

00:02:34 Oli

What is beyond the known? What is beyond what we understand as human beings, both scientific, both folkloric and I spent my whole life with my family, being brought up in the Carpathian mountains.

00:02:54 Oli

Interacting with.

00:02:56 Oli

The elders from that place being like, hey, don't spend the night after the moon phase at this specific hour, cause you're gonna meet some dudes that have hoofs. Ooh, they're gonna do this certain thing and etcetera, etcetera.

00:03:17 Oli

I had these transcendental experiences within my body in a sober experience, and I could not make sense of it.

00:03:26 Merrily

Right.

00:03:28 Oli

And later on, uh, thankfully, I spent a lot of time.

00:03:36 Oli

Meeting and being in megalithic sites and across Europe from Carnac to Avebury.

00:03:46 Oli

And various turns and burial mounds that were scattered, found here in Transylvania, Poland, Scandinavia. And I just sometimes I would go there, drink and sleep.

00:04:04 Oli

I don't know why. Yeah.

00:04:08 Oli

But that initiated myself into the unknown.

00:04:12 Oli

And here I am speaking with you, so I think.

00:04:17 Oli

You went into a good place.

00:04:19 Merrily

Yeah, I think so. I'm really fascinated by how your first experience was a dream is is kind of how you it's really that's really interesting. So I don't think I've had a guest that has necessarily said like it was definitely a dream because.

00:04:39 Merrily

Yeah, because if I think back, I feel like when I was a child too, I had a lot of like, weird.

00:04:43 Merrily

Dreams that I couldn't.

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Really explain. But they were really vivid, you know.

00:04:49 Merrily

So that's I'm fascinated by that.

00:04:53 Merrily

And also I'm curious what your perspective is around.

00:04:59 Merrily

Kind of growing up with a lot of these folks around you that are like don't go out during this certain mean phase. You know that kind, you know that kind of thing because here in.

00:05:09 Merrily

The West it's.

00:05:10 Merrily

Or at least in America, I'll just be for America because I'm American. That's just not a thing. Right. So I'm very curious what your perspective of.

00:05:19 Merrily

Of what is missing from the American West, I guess.

00:05:26 Oli

That is a very cool.

00:05:27 Oli

Question. I appreciate it merrily.

00:05:31 Oli

We are Romania now is part of the West as well, so on.

00:05:41 Oli

Cultural subconscious level we are of the same society, right?

00:05:48 Oli

What we the part in in Europe is.

00:05:53 Oli

This specific city, this specific region, has a very tight knit valley or region that it doesn't go out of that bounce, but it does have similarities between all of them.

00:06:08 Oli

I I found the same things I learned in the Carpathians that were in the.

00:06:13 Oli

Appalachians in Nova Scotia, right in, in Mongolia, etcetera. But what we miss, I think in all of our society is.

00:06:25 Oli

We lack the understanding of time and nature and uncertainty and the unknown, and we lose our cognitive ability to have.

00:06:39 Oli

Or a healthy relationship with these parts of nature that are normal. We we always want to know what we do.

00:06:48 Oli

We always want to have everything under control and I don't think that's part of the human experience. The fullest and understanding that from from the elders that survived communism here is understanding. Being in communion with parts of nature.

00:07:09 Oli

That we cannot control and are a bit scary, beautiful and terrifying at the same time.

00:07:18 Merrily

Yeah, that's really well put. I like that you brought up the the Appalachians here in America because it's definitely.

00:07:25 Merrily

I had a guest. He and his he was talking about his family, who tend to be from the Appalachian region and definitely.

00:07:33 Merrily

Close to the land and very strange things happen quite often. That would probably freak a lot of, you know, American city folk out. So that was a really good perspective. Thank you for sharing that.

00:07:51 Merrily

Now I know you mentioned, sorry you had sort of elders maybe in your family or your community that probably helped shape your path and help guide you. Did you have any other forms of support or guidance as well kind of coming up?

00:08:08 Oli

No, not at all. I felt very.

00:08:13 Oli

Isolated in a sense, with sharing these experiences with others. Only very elder people in a village somewhere would understand that hey.

00:08:27 Oli

That certain entity or archetypal force can visit you during this luminous.

00:08:34 Oli

Part of your life.

00:08:37 Oli

But I grew up. I was born in 89 and I grew up from the 90s in 89. The building wall fell and our culture went from Communism to democracy. Nobody knew what they were doing things.

00:08:57 Oli

Happen. Uh. Certain pockets of lore and etymology still existed in the villages.

00:09:06 Oli

But not really so.

00:09:10 Oli

In urban environment in a secular society, it was the opposite. I did not understand what was happening to me and I felt very.

00:09:20 Oli

Separated from I think what I think right now is a a thing that happens to most people.

00:09:31 Oli

Normally and naturally.

00:09:37 Merrily

That's a good that is a good point. Like you feel separated from that and it should be maybe more natural.

00:09:47 Merrily

Yeah. And I think there is kind of like a a sense of that missing, but you can't maybe at least I'm speaking for myself too, but you can't really put your finger on it until.

00:09:58 Merrily

Maybe some more investigation is happening?

00:10:01 Oli

I mean this this. Yeah.

00:10:06 Oli

The path of reconciliation with.

00:10:10 Oli

These parts hidden parts of nature. I think we have to be 1 foot in it and one foot in the secular.

00:10:18 Oli

You cannot dismiss either or.

00:10:21 Merrily

Right.

00:10:21 Oli

But how can we function as mistakes in in a world where sometimes you're.

00:10:27 Oli

You're a cook.

00:10:29 Oli

In that sense of the.

00:10:30 Oli

Two and in another sense, you're too scientific and you're like.

00:10:35 Oli

I don't know. Yeah. Whatever, right.

00:10:40 Merrily

That is the balance, right? It's like I think I even I was talking to somebody recently and I said, yeah, it's a lot of it, at least for me, is being comfortable with being.

00:10:50 Merrily

Probably legal as a cuckoo.

00:10:56 Merrily

But I think you know and you and I chatted also a little bit about how you have very scientific and analytical minds. And so yeah, that's that's definitely quite a balanced to strike so.

00:11:11 Merrily

Very cool.

00:11:13 Merrily

UM. And what would you say were some favorite books that you could point to along your path that were really integral for you?

00:11:24 Oli

Yeah. Appreciate that question. It sometimes it it, it fluctuates from here and there, but specifically I can remember being a practical cabalist. I I did not read anything astrological, but with Kabbalah I.

00:11:43 Oli

Like while we chatted, I just travel to Edinburgh, which is my favorite city in Europe.

00:11:52 Oli

Shout out to all my Edinburgh peeps the moment I put my foot down from the train.

00:12:00 Oli

I got this archetypal like from the gut. Go to the call book shops and.

00:12:11 Oli

Get cabbalistic books. I was not into Kabbalah at all. I did not understand what I was. But lo and behold, I went to the weird shop in Edinburgh. Best one of the best shops in Europe.

00:12:27 Oli

And I asked one of my friends there to be like, can you give me a book that is super easy to digest, that's beginner one that will ruin my mind and be extremely antagonistically complicated.

00:12:47 Oli

In one that is poetically filled with hope for the future, and you would have this book as a desert island and this is.

00:13:02 Oli

About Luria and the window of the soul.

00:13:07 Oli

I can now recommend enough James David Dunn from the with forward from Rabbi Ernest Toyota.

00:13:17 Oli

I could not stop reading the introductions of this book. It was amazing. Put me on the path of understanding.

00:13:29 Oli

From animism to astrology, Kabbalah just answered the why the the beginning parts were like in the middle pillar. We all know that Israel, the guard is classic.

00:13:44 Oli

And the advanced one was a treatise on the Sefer Yetzirah from cop, our Kaplan. So super cool.

00:13:53 Merrily

Very perfect. Wow. Yeah. I'm I'm very excited. I haven't. I mean, I have the middle pillar, but it's real regarding the other two books, I'm not.

00:14:01 Merrily

Familiar with and I have the safari etcetera, but I feel like it's just raw, right? So this is like a translation and so it's kind of to me anyway, it's kind of impenetrable. It's like.

00:14:14 Oli

How do you feel about that?

00:14:16 Merrily

Yeah, I think most I think the impenetrability is like read a sentence, maybe sit with it instead of what I try to do is like reading the whole thing and going not exactly sure what's going on there. But I think it's more contemplative.

00:14:36 Oli

That's the part with the Sefer Yetzirah. I would read it, put it to the side and let the subconscious figure it out. It does not make sense.

00:14:44 Oli

Yeah, read it again. It does not make sense. Read it again. It does not make sense. Read it again. It doesn't make sense. You walk down the street one Tuesday evening.

00:14:57 Oli

Starts to make sense, right?

00:15:01 Merrily

Right. Like in technology, it's kind of doing its background processes, right?

00:15:08 Oli

Yeah. And I would recommend for others like if you want to understand like the paranormal, understanding the unknown. I would really recommend John Keel.

00:15:21 Oli

Especially the 8th tower to really.

00:15:24 Oli

Have a different understanding of the archetypal forces. It's not, not cryptozoology. It's not UFO. It's not aliens in the spaceship. It's more than that. It's us and outside.

00:15:39 Oli

George P Hansen's trickster into paranormal.

00:15:43 Oli

If you can ever get a grip on that book, it would.

00:15:47 Oli

I cannot recommend that enough.

00:15:51 Oli

It is the best I think, both to understand the liminal forces that we generate as human beings and outside of us, in a in a space that is.

00:16:06 Oli

Being interacted with the unknown.

00:16:11 Oli

And the trickster element behind it, because it will always play.

00:16:16 Oli

Various games around you.

00:16:22 Merrily

Yeah, I happen to read now two more books I have to add.

00:16:27 Merrily

To my list.

00:16:28 Merrily

Because I think I definitely have like one of.

00:16:30 Merrily

John keel's.

00:16:30 Merrily

Books that I did start to read, but I haven't finished it and I'll try to remember.

00:16:35 Oli

You know which one is Nathan.

00:16:37 Merrily

I'm sure it's the one. Yeah, I think it was the Mothman.

00:16:40 Merrily

For sure, which it was. Again, I started it and I was like.

00:16:43 Merrily

I don't know.

00:16:45 Oli

I know, right?

00:16:46 Merrily

It's like.

00:16:48 Oli

It's it's, it's a lot, it's.

00:16:51 Oli

Some crazy stuff right there.

00:16:52 Merrily

Yeah, but the other two books that you mentioned, because I'm thinking of demonic reality because I talked about it on my show, which is yeah, is amazing. And then what was the other one? Oh, and then I read.

00:17:04 Oli

Right.

00:17:08 Merrily

There was a book about pan the God pan, that came out.

00:17:14 Merrily

The rebirth of pan, which I read and so I read those like at the same time, right. And so when you're talking about the trickster element, you know, it's like, you know, trying to figure out what that means for us.

00:17:16 Oli

Hooked up.

00:17:27 Oli

What do you think the rebirth of pan means? Then I'm curious.

00:17:32 Merrily

Oh, you know, I don't know if I I don't know if I have a 100% formulated opinion on it. My current. I'm sure it's going to change, but my current feeling about it is that the rebirth of pan.

00:17:46 Merrily

Is pan is always evolving as a as a cultural being and as a like a like a soul of the world incarnation like Anima. You know what I mean?

00:17:59 Oli

Right, yeah.

00:17:59 Merrily

Because, like I've seen pan like the figure of pan like it's in different cultures, like it shows like like the same type of being shows up in a lot of different cultures, so.

00:18:14 Merrily

And I think he's trying to get us more attention now because, like you said, there's that disconnect with humans and our connection to nature.

00:18:24 Merrily

And so maybe that trickster elements is coming out in some ways that, you know, sometimes the trickster isn't super nice.

00:18:33 Oli

Sometimes it's a bit too gnarly. You know when when it was written there was a very specific transit happening.

00:18:46 Oli

Yeah, what?

00:18:49 Oli

Archetypal astrology astrological archetype would you think pan is?

00:18:55 Merrily

Oh God. Ohh.

00:18:57 Merrily

What beyond like mercury?

00:19:03 Oli

Like you know, the other ones.

00:19:07 Merrily

I know what did you say?

00:19:09 Merrily

And this one sounds weird. I'm going to say Saturn only because, you know, Saturn is Earth representative, right? Like it's like.

00:19:18 Oli

Yeah. OK, perfect. It's Saturn was conjunct Pluto.

00:19:23 Merrily

Whoa, really?

00:19:24 Oli

When it was written and when was the last time Saturn conjugated Pluto?

00:19:29 Merrily

Oh God.

00:19:29 Merrily

Yeah, you would definitely know better.

00:19:31 Merrily

Than me.

00:19:33 Oli

I'm just going to say it. It starts with the word pen.

00:19:41 Merrily

Pandemic Ohh the ohh. My gosh. Are you serious? That's right.

00:19:45 Oli

Yeah, that's the rebirth of pen pen.

00:19:46 Merrily

Right.

00:19:50 Oli

Was the entity that saved Athens in mythology and it saved that dude who ran across from the that battle with the Persians to.

00:20:06 Oli

To get to Athens and Sparta and be like, yo, we need help because these dudes are killing us. Yeah. But pan in the meantime, saw the marathon runner, the Battle of Marathon was like, yo, I I can help you if you build a temple for me, you know.

00:20:21 Oli

Not not in the.

00:20:22 Oli

Center of the of the city because I'm I'm still a weirdo wild guy, but just adjacent.

00:20:32 Oli

If you were sure.

00:20:33 Oli

I'm gonna make those people pan, etc.

00:20:41 Oli

Pan Rebirth itself archetypically through pan, something pandemics panic and it loves.

00:20:52 Oli

Panicats Zion, like we call it in Latin bread.

00:20:56 Merrily

Ohh, that's right, that's right.

00:21:00 Oli

That was the time when that part of nature came into being, but without panic.

00:21:08 Oli

Cannot exist.

00:21:10 Merrily

That is.

00:21:12 Merrily

That's that's cool. I never considered that. And yeah, he definitely writes about he. Meaning. Oh gosh, I'm trying to remember the author, but in.

00:21:21 Merrily

The Pan book.

00:21:22 Merrily

He definitely writes a lot about like pandemics and panics, and like how that relates and then?

00:21:29 Merrily

Yeah. So that's really cool that you put that together and illustrated that.

00:21:35 Oli

When you go into the woods.

00:21:37 Oli

And and spend time with the unknown.

00:21:40 Oli

There will not. There will be a time when you will face terror and pan will be the an embodiment of panic.

00:21:50 Oli

I've had that numerous times and I'm trying to make it more of a healthy embodiment in my life. Sometimes it's more disruptive than not, but that's how that type of.

00:22:04 Oli

You're in the wild, but you like the commodity of being around humans type of. It's the it's the wild nature. It's an embodiment.

00:22:16 Oli

Communing with us. Trying to be a.

00:22:20 Oli

There is more to life than this. That's how I perceive it, at least at the this time.

00:22:30 Merrily

Yeah, it's definitely like a shake. It like kind of shakes you apple, yeah.

00:22:38 Merrily

Yeah, yeah. And I know in a lot of not a lot, but there's in the some magical practices. It's kind of encouraged that you go.

00:22:46 Merrily

Buy yourself into the woods. You know, I'm like.

00:22:51 Merrily

Have not done it yet cause it's.

00:22:54 Merrily

Yeah, working myself up.

00:22:57 Oli

I just want to say if you start giving an offering to the woods, you you cannot stop. You have to keep going. That's there's a very haunted forest near near Kluge. The whole batch of forest. And they started giving offerings of Panicats Zion.

00:23:03 Merrily

OK.

00:23:16 Oli

You should not stop and whenever you go there, so you know it's like taking care of a pet.

00:23:21 Merrily

Ah yeah.

00:23:23 Oli

We there's a, there's a hidden.

00:23:29 Oli

The rule set of understanding the unknown within and without. Once you start giving something to pan.

00:23:38 Oli

You you can stop, so better to just not give.

00:23:46 Merrily

That's a good advice. I'll have to remember that I will just mention that my mom. So my mom is Filipino and so definitely very, you know, listening to the stories of kind of my.

00:24:01 Merrily

Great grandmother. She's very in touch with the woods. So much so she would do offerings to like the Bamboo Forest and anytime. And she would was really strict about, like, anybody is entering that force. You have to come to me first because I have to get permission right before you go in there.

00:24:22 Merrily

And then apparently one of my great uncles did not do that and he broke his leg.

00:24:30 Oli

There you go.

00:24:31 Merrily

Yeah. And then she had to go in with, like, a big tray of something to the woods for hours, my mom said and like, talk to whatever was in there to get them to, like, help his leg heal.

00:24:44 Oli

I can.

00:24:47 Oli

I can see. Yes, yes, that's how it happens. You just you talk to the words like a weirdo and say, hey, can I?

00:24:57 Merrily

Can I come in here?

00:25:01 Oli

It does make pan is it means all in Latin. So you're talking with everything.

00:25:09 Oli

Within and without, yeah.

00:25:14 Merrily

That's a good that's a good way of looking at it very. You know, again sort.

00:25:17 Merrily

Of that animus sort of thing like it's all, it's all you. It's all, it's all, and it's all of them. And yeah, yeah.

00:25:24 Oli

It's us and them, and neither and everything right.

00:25:31 Merrily

Hold that together. Hold that at once.

00:25:33 Oli

Makes sense of it, yes.

00:25:35 Merrily

Exactly. Ohh man, that's great. Ohh.

00:25:41 Merrily

So thank you for sharing your thoughts on Pam. That was really super intriguing. Uh, what would you say your current spiritual path looks like that you're kind of following?

00:25:55 Oli

Interesting question. It always evolves. I I started. That's how I learned. Astrology is from gardening.

00:26:05 Oli

Just taking care of plants.

00:26:08 Oli

And you do certain things with plants at certain certain phases of the moon? That's just the farmer's Almanac. Every person who takes care of plants knows this duprene when the moon is waning, you change pots when there's a new moon.

00:26:26 Oli

You let the fruits take root in full moon. What I had fortune of is being surrounded by really cool like women, friends and they at the same time when I was taking care of the plants they would be like ohh the moon's in cancer. I feel this.

00:26:46 Oli

Hmm, the money. And Leo, I feel this. I'm like.

00:26:51 Oli

I understood empirically that the moon doesn't influence the planets, but it is.

00:26:58 Oli

A barometer. It is a clock.

00:27:02 Oli

It's a Neoplatonic way of seeing the universe. It's it's just you look at the sky. It's like ohh. Now I need to do this, but then something shifted. It's like let me just observe.

00:27:18 Oli

And it's cool with the moon because it changes signs every 2 1/2 days. So you could take a step back and see how that archetype would manifest in other people around you.

00:27:32 Oli

For a year or two, and I was just, oh, this is when the moon and cancer waning is moon waxing in cancer. Taurus. Aries.

00:27:44 Oli

I was very skeptical with astrology, so.

00:27:50 Oli

That was a catalyst.

00:27:53 Oli

Because before that, there were these experiences in nature that I did not understand. Ecstatic experiences. I would walk through the woods.

00:28:04 Oli

And had.

00:28:05 Oli

Contemplative outer body experiences just by walking, just by being around nature. What is that?

00:28:14 Oli

I did not know.

00:28:17 Oli

So that is the root of my path but.

00:28:23 Oli

Understanding astrology, understanding, animism.

00:28:27 Oli

I I could not get why it doesn't respond to. Why?

00:28:32 Oli

Why this? Why that you could? You know, because of this spirit or because of that planet?

00:28:40 Oli

The aspect of Carboline contemplative mysticism is the missing ingredient. So now what I do is whenever I'm triggered or my nervous system gets out of whack, take a step back and try to see the beauty in life.

00:28:58 Oli

See a color that I like. Remember beauty, remember.

00:29:05 Oli

The fact that this universe is imperfect, as am I, so why fight against it?

00:29:13 Oli

This is where I'm going trying to go from astrology like, oh, you know.

00:29:19 Oli

You Rep it. There's a spring, summer, blah, blah, blah. What's the point?

00:29:24 Merrily

Right.

00:29:25 Oli

Beauty is the point. Love is the point.

00:29:30 Oli

So that's where I'm going into.

00:29:35 Oli

Being alive and all that entails in our modern life, all the pressures and and and struggles, but at the same time can I see beauty in everything I need to do, the way not enough.

00:29:54 Oli

And the first thing stuff you know.

00:29:58 Oli

Does this sound? Does this drive with you? Does this sound?

00:30:02 Merrily

Familiar. Yeah, it's definitely kind of like what I'm getting from what you're saying.

00:30:08 Merrily

Is just kind of being right and absorbing instead of like putting that mental like bringing out there. Like when I like when you said.

00:30:21 Merrily

What? Like I'm asking, why? Why? It's kind of like a child, right? When a child asks when adult why they want it explained right? The sky is blue because of the da, da, da, da, right. And that. And that's kind of what we are expecting. But I think you beautifully were explaining it's like.

00:30:40 Merrily

You know, sometimes you're not going to get the answer like you might not get an answer, you're just, you're just kind of there. Yeah.

00:30:47 Oli

It's no answer.

00:30:50 Merrily

So I really like that and you know, of course, you know, there's, like, trying to find the beauty, you know, understanding that love is really the thing that holds the things together.

00:31:00 Merrily

Even though it seems so hard sometimes.

00:31:03 Oli

I know, right?

00:31:04 Oli

That's the test. That's it, always said.

00:31:07 Merrily

Yeah. Ah, so cool.

00:31:11 Merrily

And so I know. So is this how sort of astrology became sort of big part of your path was like the plant working with plants and then kind of feeling this out and that sort of thing?

00:31:22 Oli

Yeah. Yeah, that's.

00:31:25 Oli

I really was into gardening 10 years ago and.

00:31:32 Oli

Spending a lot of my all my past was in camping because my parents and.

00:31:41 Oli

Living in the mountains and when you spend time love in nature, if you you can talk to hunters. You can talk to hikers. There's a point where they will meet something outside of themselves and you cannot put it into words.

00:31:59 Oli

So that's where for me.

00:32:04 Oli

In in a strange way, when there's always a a moment where you go into the unknown but you you you disconnect yourself from that path. I think going on a path you have to 1st lose the path.

00:32:21 Oli

And and I went through that randomly. When I went into a corporate environment in, in a finance, I got sent to work.

00:32:32 Oli

Remotely in the UK in 2015.

00:32:36 Oli

Right next to Avebury I was not.

00:32:40 Oli

Expecting this, but if they're being my favorite place in Europe because it's a medieval medieval Neolithic stone circle.

00:32:50 Oli

From thousands of years.

00:32:53 Oli

And I got randomly dumped there with a team.

00:32:58 Oli

And one of my friends from the corporate environment asked, asked the uh the cab driver that would take us from the place where we were sitting, to the nearby county, to the offices where we would work. And we're like, hey, we're we're living in a very remote place. Is there, like a civilization thing here? Is there malls or something?

00:33:19 Oli

It's like, hey, there's like a stone circle here. If you're, like, one of your friends.

00:33:25 Oli

Maybe he likes the weird place.

00:33:28 Oli

And my face dropped because my whole life since I was five years old, I dreamt of being a paper.

00:33:36 Oli

So every weekend I would spend time in blizzards and cold weather just walking around the Neolithic sites, meditating on.

00:33:46 Oli

Catacombs and places of the dead.

00:33:50 Oli

And just.

00:33:52 Oli

Initiating myself in that way and not knowing that that's a thing actually.

00:33:57 Merrily

Right. Just felt natural, seems like.

00:34:02 Oli

Yeah, just go and sleep on a burial mound.

00:34:06 Merrily

See what happens right. Ohh wow.

00:34:11 Merrily

Yeah, that's cool. I like that you took that initiative and that opportunity, right? You're like I'm here. I've been.

00:34:17 Merrily

Dreaming about it? What do I want?

00:34:19 Merrily

To do, I want to sit and sit there.

00:34:21 Merrily

And like what it absorbed or whatever.

00:34:26 Merrily

That's super cool.

00:34:27 Merrily

What I did want to say because you mentioned because I've been to Edinburgh once and this is many years ago, before any of my like occults and esoteric life.

00:34:41 Merrily

But I remember walking because, you know, you tore the Edinburgh Castle as you do. And there was the room they take you into, like the Chapel room, which is really small.

00:34:51 Merrily

And I remember I walked in there and I.

00:34:53 Merrily

Was like look like.

00:34:54 Merrily

And I said there's like a speak. Is there a speaker in here?

00:34:58 Merrily

And they were like, what you talking about? Like, there's, like, a buzzing in this room. It's like, really strong. And everybody was like, what are you? I'm like, there's. I think there's a you guys have a speaker or a light or something is making a lot of noise.

00:35:09 Merrily

And they're like, I don't know, you're talking about. I was like.

00:35:12 Merrily

OK. But I think it was just just a lot of energy for some reason.

00:35:18 Oli

You know those medieval place? Yeah. I can't stand those medieval places. It's it's not. Hey, I I love Edinburgh. But I like the new buildings, I mean.

00:35:29 Oli

Narrow corridors buzzing. It's like so much old energy in a place. No way. Yucky. That's me. Yuck.

00:35:42 Merrily

Perfect. So yeah, I'm glad. Thanks for the the.

00:35:48 Merrily

The validation on the buzzy weird energy.

00:35:52 Oli

I mean, I mean, I I've been in the catacombs behind any brand they were like, oh, this is where people died. I'm like, great, why?

00:35:58 Oli

Am I here? What are we doing here?

00:36:01 Oli

Why? Why?

00:36:03 Oli

What a wonderful experience. I love it. Can I wait to be in the suffocating sub basement?

00:36:12 Merrily

Uh, the things we do for to look into stuff.

00:36:20 Merrily

Well, wonderful. I know.

00:36:24 Merrily

You kind of you talked a bit about Kabbalah and we chatted a bit about it on our, you know pre chat call. How would you describe Kabbalah like mysticism and practical Kabbalah that you're kind of working with?

00:36:41 Merrily

In that fashion.

00:36:42 Oli

Good question. Thank you. I mean Kabbalah is what it means is is a tradition. Oral tradition is something that you give.

00:36:52 Oli

Is to give.

00:36:55 Oli

And the thing that I love about.

00:36:56 Oli

It is that.

00:36:59 Oli

It's a dialogue that keeps on going. You can add to it as a heretic. Like I'm not into.

00:37:10 Oli

Let's say Judaism or Christianity or something like that, even though, ironically, I think I'm more into the vanity than those people. But in the more contemplative, abstract way.

00:37:24

Right.

00:37:25 Oli

But it's this through the act of giving, and the dialogue continues. It's not a.

00:37:34 Oli

It doesn't have a beginning and an end. That's where it like the safer Zohar.

00:37:41 Oli

It's a dialogue between various.

00:37:46 Oli

Uh personalities that the authors wrote. It's not one person, there's many.

00:37:52 Merrily

That's right, yeah.

00:37:53 Oli

That's the beauty of.

00:37:54 Oli

It it's we add to the.

00:37:59 Oli

Tradition by living and giving more and by seeing beauty and being in honor of beauty and working for beauty. So you add to the couple law without knowing I add to the Kabbalah without knowing by being just a better dude.

00:38:19 Oli

And do that. That's it.

00:38:23 Merrily

A certain work. That's a really beautiful way of looking at it. I didn't think. I think that was kind of missing in what I've been looking at as far as like the Kamala is sort of the.

00:38:34 Merrily

That it was like the the Zohar was written by several different people. I think I had watched, oh, gosh, just I'm sure you've seen Justin Sledge and esoterica. And he. Yeah, he top top, top channel and he kind of goes through a lot of the common law. And I remember him talking about it, but I didn't.

00:38:54 Merrily

Absorb it.

00:38:55 Merrily

In that way, until you explained it so I appreciate.

00:38:59 Oli

I love Doctor Sledge. He he comes from a very more astute historic academic place.

00:39:03 Merrily

Yes, yes, for sure.

00:39:06 Oli

Again, I come from a more experiential.

00:39:09 Oli

Weirdo. Weirdo place as a heathen, but I do partake.

00:39:17 Oli

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's beautiful. I I cannot overestimate over. Share. How? How beautiful the Zohar is. It's just insane.

00:39:29 Merrily

Yeah, it's like what a gift, right? That we we have it to look at in these times. And ohh yeah, I love it.

00:39:38 Merrily

So can you tell me? No, I know because I looked at you. You helped a lot of your clients and people that you work with on sort of their their normal experiences. And one of the offerings on your website is kabalistic astrology. And I'm very curious what that.

00:39:56 Merrily

What that is?

00:39:59 Oli

Well, thank you. I mean.

00:40:01 Oli

You know, just Sledge said this as well. There's no correspondences with the Sephora there is.

00:40:11 Oli

Things in those.

00:40:14 Oli

Understandings the the Tree of life and all those little circles that are beyond our understanding. But for us to understand it better, I think the work of, let's say Crowley, you know everybody else, I think it's it's very important just to.

00:40:31 Oli

And make our mind see the bridges between.

00:40:37 Oli

Things and.

00:40:40 Oli

Like in Israel, goddess book from the middle pillar.

00:40:44 Oli

That's the point. I think we talked about this. It's like a a balance between mask and.

00:40:51 Oli

And a balance between harsh and light, good and bad, dark and like it's, I think, despair and hope, for example, are the same thing. Different sides of the coin. So practicing this with with the clients is.

00:41:13 Oli

They have an emotional response. They're having an emotional experience that is very steeped into one of these elements, be it water, air, fire, earth or a planetary archetype. OK, let's balance it out with the opposite.

00:41:33 Oli

Like it's too much air.

00:41:35 Oli

Being some fire, being some water, being some earth too much, Saturn being some of the sun, too much sun. Bring some Saturn.

00:41:46 Oli

So that is what I do in my practice is.

00:41:52 Oli

When I'm going to meet my husband, when I'm going to do this, it's like, no, it's.

00:41:59 Oli

Understand the absence. Understand the void accepted and like in Lubiana Kabbalah, it's create a space with no, no, no. It's like a quilt and you create a space for something and.

00:42:16 Oli

The universe adherers void and it will create something so probabilistically that.

00:42:26 Oli

From imperfect to imperfect you.

00:42:30 Oli

You breathe in and then breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out. So helping people understand that we lose things in life by.

00:42:43 Oli

There's nothing to fear. It's a part of creation.

00:42:53 Oli

Do you see it similar?

00:42:54 Oli

Or how do you see it? Kabbalah combined with astrology.

00:42:58 Merrily

Oh, gosh, yeah, pretty much, yeah. Again, you explained it very well. I I like your, you know, the association with like the breath that you did. And then the the quilt because the way I've been kind of explaining to folks is like containers like at least like, you know, like like a my magical practice and like understanding.

00:43:20 Merrily

Like you create sort of like a container for something.

00:43:24 Merrily

For, you know, like if you're, you know, let's say manifesting, you create the container of like this is what I actually want. Now you know I need the spirit energy to get in there. Yes.

00:43:38 Merrily

Yeah. And so that's just kind of how I've been conceptualizing it.

00:43:45 Oli

That's beautiful sense, yeah.

00:43:45 Merrily

But I look at that.

00:43:47 Merrily

You. Yeah. And it is like, you know, we talked about that before. It's like, yeah, for me, it's all about balancing myself because, like, I have, and we're going to talk. I hope we're going to get to chat a little bit about Deborah and Mars. But my planetary chart ruler is Mars. But I'm a Pisces son. Right. And so there's, like, a.

00:44:09 Merrily

Like a a push pull with that.

00:44:12 Merrily

And so, yeah, so it's just kind of really understanding those elements and what I need to lean into to either you know.

00:44:22 Merrily

Understand a situation that's causing me some some anxiety or strife or like a person that's causing me anxiety or strife. Or, you know, some, something like what is the energy that needs to balance? Like you said, like to balance this out.

00:44:39 Merrily

Yeah, this is very much very similar.

00:44:40 Oli

All persons.

00:44:44 Merrily

Yeah, yeah, cool. Well, I'm. I'm really glad that you you helped people along with that because it is. And like you said like, you know, some people might come to you and like, oh, I.

00:44:53 Merrily

Want like a husband?

00:44:55 Merrily

Like get, how do we get that?

00:44:58 Merrily

And like well.

00:44:59 Oli

I mean, we all do, but.

00:45:00 Merrily

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

00:45:04 Oli

What vessel are you pouring yourself into? Said we're all vessels. Everything is a vessel. Our thoughts, our emotions, our being.

00:45:06 Merrily

Yeah, yeah.

00:45:13 Oli

They're all a bubble. They're all awesome and vessels break sometimes, yes.

00:45:22 Oli

Then you put it together.

00:45:25 Oli

In a better way.

00:45:26 Merrily

Yeah, yeah, so good.

00:45:29 Merrily

UM.

00:45:31 Merrily

You know, I did want to just chat a little bit about because you were talking about Mars energy and, you know, I really liked what you had to say about.

00:45:38 Merrily

That because I was.

00:45:40 Merrily

Relaying to you how I was having trouble, you know? So I have a planetary.

00:45:45 Merrily

Altar for all the planets.

00:45:48 Merrily

There's a particular Greek art store from Greece that I was ordering my my figures from, but they didn't have Mars like had everybody else did not have.

00:45:59 Merrily

And I was like, that is so strange. Why they wouldn't have Mars. And then when I went to look for like at Aries or Mars, statue was kind of hard. But I'm also very picky. Like I wanted it to look cool.

00:46:11 Merrily

And I did finally find something that I really liked, but it took me a little while. But you know, from what I got from that was like people, it feels like people are kind of uncomfortable with Mars, Mars energy and, you know, kind of. No wonder. Like, we have like a lot of Mars energy happening in the macro level right now.

00:46:32 Merrily

So I'm just curious what your perspective is about.

00:46:36 Merrily

People's relationship with Mars and Debra and Aries and all of that.

00:46:42 Oli

Thank you for that question. That's a very valid question. And I think that is an archetype that's very misunderstood in our modern society.

00:46:51 Oli

We don't like challenge. We don't like healthy conflict. We don't understand how conflict.

00:46:58 Oli

Is a first step towards unity.

00:47:02 Oli

Conflict has the same etymology as everything as communication connection con together. It's a part of.

00:47:13 Merrily

That's right.

00:47:16 Oli

And I love in Cuba lot. The beautiful part is on the left side is Guevara.

00:47:24 Oli

But that's the feminine side, and Mars is of the feminine.

00:47:30 Oli

Because the feminine is like, no, I don't want this.

00:47:36 Oli

No, you cannot have this.

00:47:39 Oli

And you see that in Scorpio, for example, very beautifully expressed in the feminine essence of Mars, because every, every, every archetype has the archetypal masculine, archetypal feminine. And to better understand.

00:48:00 Oli

Mars understand Scorpio? It's like, no.

00:48:04 Oli

OK.

00:48:06 Oli

And because it's an opposite of kissed, which is the suffer of Jupiter, it's like I want more and Jupiter is and Mars is.

00:48:18 Merrily

Put it down. It's beautiful to see it as feminine, yeah.

00:48:25 Oli

And at the same time as a man, because I worked in, like Joseph Campbell's space, like let's say, a an archetypal sis man. Whatever.

00:48:39 Oli

To be initiated in the mascon is to get out of the comfort zone. You see it in a in every tribe in.

00:48:49 Oli

In ancient cultures, a man is initiated differently than women. Women have a support system, men need to go alone outside of the tribe outside.

00:48:59

Right.

00:49:01 Oli

The moon outside of you can see the glyph. It's a it's a circle and there's.

00:49:08 Oli

Something pushing out of the.

00:49:09 Merrily

Circle, right?

00:49:12 Oli

Any person on Earth can understand the Martian part of us, and it doesn't have to be ohh. Armies are bad like.

00:49:22 Oli

Violence is bad. It's seeing the better side of it. Learning martial arts to protect yourself, having an army to protect yourself from hostile environments. This is a hostile world. It's not an easy reality to live in. So give her up.

00:49:43 Oli

It teaches us to say no to.

00:49:47 Oli

Uh, keep our balance to cut ties that would uh create toxicity in our life and to protect.

00:49:56 Oli

Turning the Conqueror into Protector.

00:50:00 Oli

I think that's very misunderstood and that's again especially in the male environment. Our fathers did not get initiated in that environment.

00:50:12 Oli

They don't know what the unknown is.

00:50:14 Merrily

I know.

00:50:16 Oli

There it is. You gotta go there. You gotta go. When? It's where. It sucks and it's scary. So give up. It's like, please do.

00:50:28 Merrily

Oh, Oh yeah. And so beautifully explained. I love it.

00:50:32 Merrily

And you know, and I'll just say for as as a woman, you know, again with my my Mars chart ruler, it is like figuring out where to point that energy. You know what I mean? And you know, and I'm. I'm learning more as.

00:50:48 Merrily

I go but.

00:50:49 Merrily

Like pointing the energy in a way that is beneficial to me.

00:50:52 Merrily

And not in a way that is going to cause me more conflict. Cause. Yeah, that. Yeah, that Martian fire comes out.

00:51:04 Oli

I think it's part of the famine famine.

00:51:06 Oli

As well, just just.

00:51:09 Oli

Be who you are. Don't take the nonsense from anybody, right? Own yourself and all that margin side. I think it's attractive no matter what you just embody that in a healthy way.

00:51:27 Oli

Yeah. And I think when we delve into these spaces of the unknown.

00:51:34 Oli

What better place than Mars to help us navigate from the the nonsense around it?

00:51:41 Merrily

That is a great, great points. Yeah. What better energy to have with you when you're?

00:51:46 Merrily

Going into the end though.

00:51:48 Merrily

So good. Yeah. All right. And I know so kind of going back to sort of what you work with your clients on, you also do something with like astrology and animism. And I'm very curious like what what that looks like if you can tell us that would be great.

00:52:06 Oli

Yeah. Thank you. I mean.

00:52:10 Oli

Animism is.

00:52:12 Oli

Seeing the world.

00:52:15 Oli

Living a thought and emotion is its own living entity.

00:52:22 Oli

Culture, institutions. They're all a living being in a in a different environment.

00:52:29 Oli

So whenever you go outside a river, a molecule, a thought, everything is alive, so it's it's the opposite of static.

00:52:40 Oli

But it does help us understand that there is places, there's moments in life where there's a birth, a middle and a death.

00:52:52 Oli

There's the liminality in it, and I think we're really in this liminal space now with when there's too much Pisces or a mutable sign like Saturn. Now Neptune, we're in a corridor. We're not there where we're not in the other place. But how can we make sense of it?

00:53:11 Oli

To apply that animistic sense is to do crossroad magic, to do things that our elders used to do. You can go outside when you're across the street. You're at a stop sign and you're like, from this moment forward, I'm not going to do what I did that I didn't like. And when.

00:53:30 Oli

That life changes. I'm going to go forward.

00:53:34 Oli

That type of folkloric, simple magic.

00:53:40 Oli

Does something to your psyche.

00:53:43 Oli

A liminal space is a mode of transportation, a bus, an airport, a hospital. You're not there to be even like, if you think about it, life. It's a liminal space.

00:54:02 Oli

Animism is.

00:54:05 Oli

And and practicing it through astrology is I use the language of astrology to make it a bit more succinct. So it's just not a bit too keep working on things that are too complex to make it more simple. But if you're grieving the past relationship, let's go on a crossroads.

00:54:27 Oli

You have. You're coming from a a path and you have three other paths or what?

00:54:35 Oli

You take the initiative, you take one path and you honor what was like. Thank you for everything. You was. You look one last time behind and you go ahead.

00:54:48 Oli

It's not just burning a a picture. You're going to go into water if you want something more simple and a heartfelt.

00:55:01 Oli

Or in the air, or just working with these simple elements of making reality more alive around us, because a lot of the astrology look at this like 2D circle, right? Whatever.

00:55:19 Oli

But if you try and explain it in a folkloric sense that everybody understands, it does start to life, starts to become a fragrant.

00:55:31 Oli

4A Fulgent it's very beautiful.

00:55:35 Oli

Right. So yeah, that's how I see it.

00:55:40 Merrily

Yeah, I think that's very helpful. Yeah, you're right. Cause it is kind of.

00:55:43 Merrily

You know, and especially when people come to astrology, you can maybe are very fresh to it and then sort of using so folklore and sort of these things that people are even more comfortable with instead of like, you know, giving them degrees and houses. And, you know, I love that. So it's very cool.

00:56:03 Merrily

And so I know one thing I've heard of on your kind of offerings is astrocartography. So I so I heard about it, I don't really quite know what it is. So if you don't mind explaining it and then how that you kind of work with that with with folks be cool.

00:56:22 Oli

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for that. I mean.

00:56:26 Oli

Whenever I I don't know what what do.

00:56:28 Oli

You do when?

00:56:31 Oli

For your specifically, merely when you have too much like things stress you out. So what? What's your go to when you take a step back and recalibrate your nervous system, let's say.

00:56:45 Merrily

Yeah, I actually was talking with somebody this weekend about that. But what I do is I'll go in meditation and.

00:56:54 Merrily

Because I feel it, it feels like I'm pushing too much of my energy out to make something happen, and then it just causes me, like you said, like nervous system situations. So what I do is I sit quietly and I give gratitude. I start with small things and I keep giving gratitude and, you know, and just list the things that I'm grateful for and that really calms me down. So.

00:57:14 Merrily

UM, yeah, that's kind of how I do.

00:57:16 Oli

OK.

00:57:17 Oli

Very beautifully piscean.

00:57:19 Merrily

Yeah. Thanks.

00:57:22 Oli

I'm a I'm a weirdo Virgo so.

00:57:24 Oli

I look at maps.

00:57:26 Merrily

Like I make list too because I'm a Virgo.

00:57:28 Merrily

Moon, I do make lists.

00:57:31 Oli

I'm also Virgo Moon, so yeah. So it's funny, just opening. Let me see the weather. And and just looking at uh, this is the storm front over this village and.

00:57:44 Oli

Just saying that I'm a complete if there's always something to be a nerd of, I would be a geography nerd. I love geography.

00:57:53 Oli

I know too many things about too many other countries and.

00:57:58 Oli

Whatever, but it's.

00:58:00 Oli

It's the same principle of turning something within that's a map, because astrology is basically a 2D map that we interpret to make sense.

00:58:11 Oli

Of the world.

00:58:12 Oli

And then we expand it over a 3D sphere, and that the moment where you're born, there's certain lines and certain things that showcase that. Hey, this is a part of the world where you feel more free in this area.

00:58:31 Oli

More inhibited in this area and I love binding these two curves. I can work out the things so.

00:58:42 Oli

It's a bit creepy because I looked at certain parts in the world that are very specific.

00:58:49 Oli

And then certain things happen in life that.

00:58:52 Oli

Force you to be there.

00:58:58 Oli

Yeah. And and I, I love making these.

00:59:04 Oli

These readings for clients, because it's they can be inhibited in a career, but feel good in family, in a place. But the finding a balance in in, in somewhere but understanding that you have to put effort into it somewhere it's not.

00:59:22 Oli

But like we say we there's cultures and places. There's no perfect country.

00:59:28 Oli

But you can find in in America, it's like a continent, it's bigger than Europe. So from the Pacific to the Atlantic, that whole space can be such a myriad different place from Colorado to Maine.

00:59:44 Oli

Yeah, that's what I do. I help people see in that space and time in their life what depending on what they want, where would they want to be? But more so because we live in this Internet age and we can, like I'm, I'm from Romania now Transylvania. I'm talking to you.

01:00:05 Oli

From from this Pacific.

01:00:10 Oli

There's no barriers in that way, so you can attract people from a different part of the world.

01:00:12 Merrily

Right.

01:00:17 Oli

Through astrophotography, that way.

01:00:20 Oli

Yeah, Christy, I love I love maps. So the best of both worlds.

01:00:24 Merrily

That's perfect. Great. I wonder because I do sort of, you know, psychic or readings with people. And I did have this one woman ask me.

01:00:36 Merrily

And she was like, where should I move to?

01:00:41 Merrily

And you know, I'm kind of seeing sort of, you know, I'm giving my sort of psyche.

01:00:46 Merrily

Like what I feel is, you know, I'm getting from the reading at that point in time, but I feel like that question feels more appropriate to somebody like you seems like.

01:00:58 Oli

I mean you you said something about Greece. Do you know what Zodiac sign Greece is?

01:01:04 Merrily

Oh gosh.

01:01:06 Merrily

If I were to guess, I would say.

01:01:08 Merrily

Zodiac sign hold on, Leo. But I have no idea.

01:01:17 Oli

And in the age of Aries, it's still Aries, it's it's super Aries.

01:01:21 Merrily

Wow. That makes yeah, it is. So yeah, it is. So that's like that.

01:01:29 Merrily

Fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what? Oh, as an American.

01:01:34 Merrily

Do you know what American?

01:01:36 Merrily

Is sign is cancer really.

01:01:37 Oli

Yeah, it's cancer.

01:01:42 Oli

4th of July.

01:01:43 Merrily

That's right.

01:01:44 Oli

I mean, some people debate on when the.

01:01:50 Oli

What's it called? I'm sorry. The Declaration of Independence was signed that day. But I think from my understanding, it's the cancer, sun. Sagittarius rising.

01:02:06 Oli

Aquarius moon.

01:02:09 Oli

Interesting, that makes sense. Romanians is Sagittarius, with Sagittarius Rising and there's some correlations with.

01:02:17 Oli

This version of Romania so.

01:02:19 Merrily

Right.

01:02:20 Oli

Every country, every business, everything like anonymous to perspective has archetype pole.

01:02:27 Oli

Essences back from blueprints like this.

01:02:32 Oli

So yeah, you, you, you, you guys are really cancer. So in in the good you know the the fixed water sign.

01:02:40 Oli

Cardinal water sign.

01:02:42 Merrily

Oh yeah, I have both of my parents are cancers, so I'm kind.

01:02:46 Merrily

Of like, yeah.

01:02:50 Oli

Yeah, there's certain countries like I don't like I like certain signs for certain things. Not in a culture. For example, like Libra.

01:03:01 Oli

A lot in certain people.

01:03:04 Oli

Or relationships not in a country.

01:03:08 Oli

So hence I don't like Germany, Germany.

01:03:13 Oli

Yeah, whatever. Yeah, fair.

01:03:18 Merrily

Ohh, that's funny. Well, yeah, thanks for that. Uh, super cool. Now I'm like.

01:03:23 Merrily

I'm going to start thinking about Astrocartography now because of this, so that's great.

01:03:27 Oli

It's it's. It's becoming something. There's some comments I really saw on Instagram. It's really cool and but.

01:03:34 Oli

If you start to micromanage like for example when you have your.

01:03:40 Oli

For solar return, there are people who wanna travel to a certain place to have a better solar return. I think that's micromanagement. Just be where you are.

01:03:50 Oli

And uh.

01:03:51 Oli

Oh, it's in the 6th house. Oh, do you?

01:03:54 Oli

Hear me.

01:03:55 Oli

How bad?

01:03:58 Oli

Like 6000.

01:03:59 Merrily

Like 6 hours. Yeah, yeah.

01:04:04 Merrily

Cool. So how would you say that you, how do you personally use astrology like in your day-to-day or?

01:04:13 Merrily

In your life.

01:04:15 Oli

Thank you again.

01:04:17 Oli

To understand certain.

01:04:22 Oli

Voids or or. Let's say if I am feeling too.

01:04:31 Oli

Emotional, too creative. Too much fire, too much water. I have to bring some air. Some air.

01:04:40 Oli

When I use it is.

01:04:42 Oli

Corresponding with the wheel of the year.

01:04:47 Oli

There's certain things that the season of winter teaches us. The season of Summer teaches us.

01:04:53 Oli

And that reminds think of winter. It starts in the cardinal sign of Earth, Capricorn, the middle of it, is the fixed air sign of Aquarius and the end of it. The death of it is the mutable sign of water. It misses fire. Fire sign.

01:05:15 Oli

So what it teaches us?

01:05:17 Oli

Focus on fire more.

01:05:19 Oli

How can I focus on fire in my own way in the Leo Sagittarius Aries aspects of me to highlight those in a in a period when that is missing in the outer world for me?

01:05:33 Oli

I then create balance and harmony.

01:05:38 Oli

In reality. So that's how I use it. It's like certain seasons have a certain period when I have.

01:05:47 Oli

Like I had a very naughty Saturn Transit.

01:05:52 Oli

I know I can balance it with something non Saturnian.

01:05:56 Oli

There is always a negative aspect happening.

01:06:00 Oli

At the same time, a positive aspect that's happening, there's no in between. It's it's always happening at the same time. So what? Astrology is helping me to understand is.

01:06:11 Oli

To not get sucked into a repeating pattern of.

01:06:19 Oli

Just blaming it on.

01:06:21 Oli

Saturn or this?

01:06:25 Oli

If if you start seeing the strategy like a path forward, like applying the wheel of the year like every autumn, the death of an autumn brings us a a spring. And so on and so forth. It's a step forward.

01:06:40

OK.

01:06:42 Oli

That's what it helps me to articulate a bit the aspects of nature I cannot put into words, right or practicality. That much, yeah.

01:06:53 Merrily

Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, that's good to think about it and consider that that you kind of want to offset sort of maybe the time of year with certain energies and yeah, that's really cool.

01:07:06 Merrily

So we're kind of wrapping up, but do you happen to have either like a favorite client story to share or at least how you enjoy working with clients or something that you'd like to share about that?

01:07:20 Oli

Sure. Like I'm I'm I'm exploring to not work. Just one-on-one with clients. I want to make things more of a green, but that you I have a a day job that.

01:07:32 Oli

Learn from that to apply to this to this space. Also, it's been like so many years since I practiced being an astrologer with clients.

01:07:46 Oli

6-7 years ago, but one thing.

01:07:49 Oli

Specifically came to mind.

01:07:52 Oli

I I'm like it's not. We talked about this previously. Not when I get a husband or a wife or this thing or that thing.

01:08:02 Oli

A lot of my clients come for very gnarly things. Why did that rape happen? Why did that? Was that baby? Why did that person die in that?

01:08:11 Oli

Way, yeah.

01:08:14 Oli

I'm I'm I'm a person. I'm a man. I'm a I'm a I'm a human being. I I don't have an.

01:08:19 Oli

Answer for that.

01:08:21 Oli

What can I share through these interpretations is to see it's not like that manifestation you age like it's your fault. It's your fault, fault.

01:08:29 Merrily

Hmm hmm.

01:08:31 Oli

You manifested it because you're this 5D person.

01:08:34

Right.

01:08:38 Oli

That's a bit spiritual bypassing in my view, but.

01:08:42 Oli

How can I understand through archetypal means specifically? Like I said that that person was a miscarriage. It's like, why did that happen?

01:08:52 Oli

Why did I lose that baby?

01:08:57 Oli

We we got deep into it like a psychiatrist. Why, you ask why until it bleeds and it hurts.

01:09:07 Oli

And you use the language of archetypal astrology to see, hey, you are going through this in this period.

01:09:15 Oli

And I'm here to see you. I'm here to understand you. You're you're not alone in this. You are a human being. And I hope that this experience makes you strong. Hmm. For it all. So I I keep remembering that cause it was highly personal and.

01:09:34 Oli

It made me very fulfilled and whole that I could bring not escapism, but.

01:09:44 Oli

Meaning to entropy and the unknown. That's what I want. I want to be a conduit to meaning from absence and avoid.

01:09:56 Merrily

Yeah. Wow. Beautifully said. Yeah, I think a lot of times it is. People just need someone with.

01:10:03 Merrily

You know.

01:10:05 Oli

And we, there's like the left brain.

01:10:09 Oli

Logic and rationale A + B = C and that's in in in math. It's like algebra, but there's the other part of math that's more agnostic and abstract like derivatives.

01:10:23 Oli

Add Infinity to Infinity plus one. What does it?

01:10:31 Merrily

It is.

01:10:34 Oli

It's not numbers.

01:10:36 Merrily

Yeah, it's a feeling, yeah.

01:10:36 Oli

It's a feeling.

01:10:41 Oli

So that it's trying to make sense of the world bridging these gaps.

01:10:47 Oli

Does that resonate with you just that how you?

01:10:48 Merrily

I'm for sure.

01:10:50 Merrily

Yeah. And I think, yeah, when I do work for people, I think it is just a.

01:10:54 Merrily

Lot of times you.

01:10:56 Merrily

You know, in a different modality, but it's similar, right? A lot of times I feel like you're you're just being present for somebody and, like, letting them, you know, and being kind of a guy, you know, because.

01:11:08 Merrily

You know, we've also done our done some work or whatever and like what has helped us and to help guide somebody who doesn't know which maybe what steps to take or just how to be present with their own.

01:11:22 Merrily

You know, mind and what's going on with them, but.

01:11:27 Merrily

Yeah, but I I like the idea of like having somebody, somebody, somebody with you, because I think a lot of times you're just kind of told to like, buck up and figure.

01:11:36 Merrily

It out yourself.

01:11:40 Oli

Nasty things happen to good people, which is true. But why?

01:11:45 Oli

Yeah, ask why until it bleeds.

01:11:48 Merrily

Why? Until it bleeds, yeah.

01:11:52 Merrily

That's when you get to it, I guess. And that's. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Ah, well, thank you so much, Ali. So where can folks find out about you to learn more about you and like, the cool things that you do and what you're up to?

01:12:10 Oli

Thank you for that. Yeah.

01:12:12 Oli

Yeah, right now currently it's just on Instagram at OAO dot mysticism.

01:12:20 Oli

Thankfully you found me there. Mm-hmm. I'll have more goodies coming forward as well as course website, many other things. So keep an eye on it, but you can find me specifically on Instagram there. Reach out to me and me.

01:12:40 Oli

Yeah, in touch.

01:12:41 Oli

Like it's cool. We're we're we're like.

01:12:43 Oli

It's it's cool to talk to people who are have these passions, so don't be a stranger, yeah.

01:12:51 Merrily

And I'm very fond like I we talked about your branding like you have this beautiful purple all over your your Instagram. And I'm like, very much about it. And on your web page too and.

01:13:00 Merrily

It's all like.

01:13:02 Merrily

Yeah, very. Virgo. Like, it's the sauce. So good.

01:13:07 Oli

Thank you. Thank you.

01:13:08 Oli

It's very important the the aesthetic.

01:13:11 Merrily

For sure I get you. So what words of wisdom would you give so much words of wisdom today? But what would you words of wisdom would you like to?

01:13:22 Merrily

Leave us with today.

01:13:24 Oli

Thank you. I mean.

01:13:27 Oli

I I keep coming back to this I.

01:13:31 Oli

I'm more into like Western hermeticism, so everything from Western stuff.

01:13:38 Oli

All of it comes back to Egypt. Everything from.

01:13:43 Oli

Christianity to hedonism or whatever it it always comes back to Egypt is the common node of everything, and we can think of her mistrust, majestic as the person, archetype, deity or what.

01:14:02 Oli

I keep remembering from the Corpus America this this dude and in Egypt is called Toth and he's the.

01:14:15 Oli

Tricks and not the tricks, but the messenger of atom, the primordial, everything. And it's so beautifully taught. Hermes, this archetype is saying hey to live a spiritual life, to live a life of morals, to constantly strive for better.

01:14:35 Oli

Is to remember one simple thing to being communion with divinity and that is to be in awe.

01:14:43 Oli

And I think The thing is so hard to do in our modern time where just you have to pay the bills, you have to do this. You're looking at the news and it's grotesque and horrid and.

01:14:56 Oli

Etc etc. Even beauty you get smitten beauty too much. It's all. It's different. So I think. And I want to leave everyone. Like, are you practicing all? Are you practicing like being.

01:15:12 Oli

A child from within to be while I am alive. I'm having this conversation memorably. I'm enjoying this.

01:15:23 Oli

This is beauty. This is a blessing, not as uh, something to use as escapism, but.

01:15:32 Oli

Like Hermes says and Toth says, if you want to be.

01:15:36 Oli

In contact with.

01:15:38 Oli

Creator and beyond creator with the nothing you have to be in all and that is first and last most important thing in spiritual practice. So be in all.

01:15:50 Merrily

Love it.

01:15:52 Merrily

Beautiful. Love it. Love it. Love it.

01:15:54 Merrily

And I like that you equated it with, like, kind of being a a child, right?

01:15:58 Merrily

And sort of.

01:16:00 Merrily

Like everything's shiny and.

01:16:04 Merrily

So good. I love it. Ollie. Thank you.

01:16:06 Oli

So thank you too. It's been a pleasure and an.

01:16:09 Merrily

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01:16:26 Merrily

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