Casual Temple

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00:00:05 Merrily

This is the Casual Template podcast and you are listening to episode #4 and I'm your host, Merrily Duffy. My mission with the Casual Temple podcast is to show the myriad of ways we are connected to the unseen world and how that empowers us to know our true selves on the casual temple. We will hear from everyday people discussing their magical practices psychic phenomenon.

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Energy healing as well as hear about their amazing, mystical and paranormal experiences this week. My guest is Madeline Hartman, who joins the podcast to talk about her path to opening psychic Awakenings, which is a psychic school based here in Seattle, WA, where she is the founder and director. All right. Well, thanks everyone for joining us here at the casual.

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Temple, our guest today is Madeleine Hartman, who is the founder and director of Psychic awakenings here in Seattle, which is a psychic school that is helping people rediscover their own spiritual abilities and the purpose of their own lives since 2006.

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And Madeline is here to discuss her spiritual journey, why she chose to open psychicschool Psychic Awakenings and tell us about some of her interesting experiences working with students who are opening up to their psychic abilities. Thank you for making time today, Madeline, to talk with us.

00:01:19 Madeline

Nice to be here.

00:01:20 Merrily

Wonderful. So I guess we'll just kind of start.

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At the beginning.

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I've I've, you know, I've heard a little bit.

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About your as.

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Spiritual journey as we work together, but what is like the most the earliest spiritual experience that you can recall. I'll just start from there.

00:01:41 Madeline

Well, if you consider just being intuitive spiritually, I always knew what teachers were thinking. I just always knew whatever the answer was, whatever questions they were asking, but I never had any real strange room experiences as a child.

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OK.

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Would you say that? What was your?

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Spiritual like home life.

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Like as a child. If they're, that's why.

00:02:11 Madeline

Oh, I would say that that my family was more or less atheist. Being spiritual was not a main concern.

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That being smart and intellectual was.

00:02:30 Merrily

Yes. So that's interesting that you kind of chose the path that you did. So what led you to even seeking out?

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You know joint because you started at the Berkeley Psychic Institute. So what were sort of the events that led to that?

00:02:43 Madeline

Right, right.

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I well, I discovered the Berkeley Psychic Institute through friends.

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And I was only 21 or 22 and I took all their classes, which fascinated me, including their clairvoyant training, and that was many years ago. And so I suppose that this is what I am meant to be doing.

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Since I discovered it at such a young age.

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UM.

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So it kind of was like your.

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Friends, you sort of.

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Heard about it through friends and that sort of.

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Thing, yeah.

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What were some of the when you started at the Berkeley Psychic Institute? What were some things that made you go? Oh, there's something here and something interesting that wasn't exciting.

00:03:36 Madeline

Because because those people were really psychic that they would make.

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Comments to me.

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And it's like.

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Oh, how did you know that about me? So it's. But it was just really interesting when that happened. Yeah.

00:03:54 Merrily

And so I know also part of was there any sort of interesting?

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Early on, experience working with the public because I think at the Berkeley Psychic Institute you would have maybe people from the public come in and work with them.

00:04:09 Madeline

Right, as as part of the Clairvoyant program, we had to do readings every week and in the beginning we, we beginning students didn't know what we were doing. But as we did it more and more, we built our confidence and that it grew.

00:04:28 Madeline

From there.

00:04:32 Merrily

And what would you say? So you had this other this life of doing uh, you know, working at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, but you were also having sort of your, I don't know if you would just call it.

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Your quote UN quote.

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Normal life or mundane life like what were you pursuing kind of in the same track as you were?

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During Berkeley Psychic Institute.

00:04:52 Madeline

Oh, oh, actually I had graduated from college with a degree in psychology just six months before I discovered the Berkeley Psychic Institute.

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And I had a job to pay the bills and pay the rent, but I feel that the very first night of the very first class that I ever took.

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I experienced being in the center of my own head and that was an amazing revelation. I I thought that that really explained a lot about why people do what they do or don't do what they don't do because they're either in their head or they're spaced out. And I learned that the very first class I ever took.

00:05:38 Merrily

And that was at the at the Berkeley Psychic Institute. It's interesting because it's sort of. Yeah, I mean, you can't. You have.

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That you know, degree in psychology. And so it's sort of like a.

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Interesting thing. It's like psychology in a way, right?

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And you can.

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Term it that way, like you're thinking about your head and your how there's like a space in your head where you're sort of operating from.

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Yeah, that's interesting.

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And I know that.

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You similarly along your way. You've had other sort of careers, a lot of like helping people and counseling folks. Can you tell us a little bit about?

00:06:24 Madeline

Oh yes, I have. I do have a masters in social work which I I started that program when I was.

00:06:33 Madeline

35 years old.

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And so after that program I did some crisis intervention work.

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And I also at the same time became a certified reflexologist to be of service to people. And I also studied how to do provide hypno birthing.

00:06:57 Madeline

For women to more easily birth their babies.

00:07:03 Merrily

Ohh wow, I didn't know about hypnobirthing. Would you mind explaining? I mean, you're sort of explained it, but how does how?

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Does that work? The main idea is that.

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Birth does not have to be painful. We people expect it to be painful, and so therefore they create situations where it's painful. But in all reality it it doesn't have to be painful. And so it involves some some self hypnosis for being totally relaxed.

00:07:32 Madeline

And to even enjoy the experience of birthing your child and and so I would meet with people, I think it was five or six times to give them the basic tools for hypno birthing.

00:07:44 Madeline

And it really did make a difference. One of my clients said she just breathed her baby out. It it just was so easy for her. No pain or suffering at all.

00:07:56 Merrily

Wow, that's amazing.

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So it's kind of changing kind of going into the birthing experience with a different mindset like that sounds like, right? Yes. Instead of like what everybody is like freaking you out about. So that's kind of interesting.

00:08:05 Madeline

Yes, yes.

00:08:13 Merrily

So about reflexology. I'm I'm a little familiar with it. I have a friend that is also reflexologist.

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What? What do you enjoy about assisting people with with that modality? It's.

00:08:31 Madeline

It's just very easy to do and it's just very, very, very relaxing.

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And and it's easy to do, and it's pretty much non invasive invasive just working on their feet. They can they do stay fully closed.

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During the session.

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And even energetically, as I work on their feet, I can feel their and see their energy shifting and changing.

00:09:01 Merrily

I'm curious about with reflexology. I know in certain spiritual.

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Ideas or approaches that the feet talk about, maybe your past or your karma? Is that ever part of reflexology you're thinking?

00:09:18 Madeline

Not not necessarily. Some people believe that just as you can read the lines on your palms, the lines on your feet are also significant.

00:09:30 Madeline

But mostly my attitude about how it worked was that there are so many nerve endings in your feet. And so by working on the feet, you're affecting the nerves that go to all of your internal organs and your brain and your muscles. And so that's how I approached it more was.

00:09:49 Madeline

Just that the whole nervous system.

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The whole nervous system can be worked on.

00:09:56 Merrily

Through the feet. Oh, OK, cool.

00:10:00 Merrily

Well, thank you for sharing that. Now I know there was. I'm trying to recall because I know you shared some stories about.

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Sort of things that have occurred. If you're wanting to share, but there was an instance maybe with your mother that was kind of like a psychic, like something where you're, like, getting some external information. Not sure if that's enough information.

00:10:23 Madeline

I think I know which story you're talking about.

00:10:29 Madeline

Many years ago, when I was in my 20s at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, I had a reading from a teacher and she told me that there was a family agreement in our family that when a mother dies or passes over.

00:10:46 Madeline

She the soul would take over the body of the daughter and I forgot about this until many, many years later. I went to go visit my mom and I walked in and I had to do double tape cause I could have sworn I saw grandma sitting.

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At the table.

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But then when I shook my head, it was my mother sitting there. So to me, that was evidence that Grandma was nearby.

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And then when my own mother died, passed on, I had this experience of some being, some spirit invading my head. And it was really strange because my thoughts were just thinking themselves.

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All the thoughts that I had had that.

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Day were just.

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Repeating themselves and I was going. This is strange. This isn't me. There's somebody else in my head and I figured out it was not my mother. It was my grandmother looking for another body to inhabit.

00:11:52 Madeline

And so I hooked her up to the light and sent her on the way. And then that strange experience never happened again.

00:12:02 Merrily

Ohh yeah, that's pretty intense. Now I know this goes kind of jumps forward. My question sort of jumps forward because I know I know some of the things that you teach at psychic awakenings, but.

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That whole experience of sort of like sending your.

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Grandmothers spirit to the light, is that, would you say? Because I think people think it needs to be grander and more complicated. And you know what I mean? But it's it sounds like it was just Nope.

00:12:32 Madeline

No, no. I just, I just.

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Intended. You know, I intended to.

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Intended mostly for grandma to get out of.

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My head right.

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And I thought, well, let's give her. Let's give her a little boost or a little push in the right direction. So I just call it sending her to the light. But I guess a lot of other people call it a lot of other things.

00:12:53 Madeline

Mostly I wanted her out of my head because it had actually happened several times.

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Until I finally decided to get rid of Grandma.

00:13:04 Merrily

Wow. Yeah, that's great that it was so well, it's so easy, right? But it was just like you had to identify it and then set that intention.

00:13:11 Madeline

Right, right.

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Cool. So what were? Who were some role models for you as far as wanting to open your own psychic school like?

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I'm sure there were people that you looked at and were like, ohh, they're doing something cool. I I kind.

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Of want to do the same thing.

00:13:28 Madeline

Well, actually.

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Back in my twenties, 21 or 22 years old when I was in the Clairvoyant program, they had a saying that the Clairvoyant program was being in kindergarten. We were all just learning how to use the psychic tools. And so one night I had a dream.

00:13:50 Madeline

That I was teaching the psychic tool.

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To a class.

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And in my dream, the founder and main teacher of the Berkeley Psychic Institute, he barged in the room and he said, what are you doing? And I said I'm teaching kindergarten and so ever since then, I wanted to be a teacher of of this information.

00:14:15 Madeline

So I took it as a sign that I was supposed to be a teacher, and I was actually a teacher trained to be a teacher at the Berkeley Psychic Institute. But it wasn't until I was almost.

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50 years old.

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That I opened up my own psychic school.

00:14:34 Merrily

So how so? What? We're so you. It's like psychic kindergarten. As you explained it and you know you weren't. You're about 50 years old. So there's a lot of things that led up to it. Maybe one of them being this dream. So what was sort of the impetus for you to just, I want to do this.

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And get this started.

00:14:58 Madeline

I was in my late 40s. I was working with a A life coach and also.

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In August of 2005, I started taking a six month.

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Phone class to review being a teacher for this information.

00:15:17 Madeline

And we the class met once a week, and we also did readings over the phone once a week. And then when the class was over six months later in January, I thought, well, I just paid all this money.

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And even though I'm quite introverted and probably.

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Thought I should find somebody else's school to play in. I thought, well, I paid all this money. I better do something with it. So I just started announcing to everybody that I knew that I was going to teach a six weeks cyclic development class and it started in April with seven people.

00:15:55 Madeline

April of 2006.

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6 and so that was 17 years ago, and since then thousands of people have taken the beginning six week classes and dozens of people have taken the year long Clairvoyant training program.

00:16:13 Merrily

Yes. How would you say so you opened the school? A psychic school in Seattle which?

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Is a very.

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You know, we're considered like a Tech City.

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How would you?

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Let me try to think how to phrase this, but how would you consider having something that it seems antithetical to like a Tech City existing in Seattle like?

00:16:37 Madeline

Yeah, well, all the all the tech companies here get a lot of press and are very visible and have a lot to do with the economy.

00:16:46 Madeline

But just there's just as many, if not more, very spiritually minded people here. Also, people who are looking for information, people who need this information. And Speaking of being a Tech City, I moved here with my boyfriend at the time.

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And because we both got jobs at Microsoft.

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And I met my husband at Microsoft and he was a computer nerd, but a very.

00:17:18 Madeline

Cute computer. Computer nerd.

00:17:24 Merrily

Would you say that there are? I'm sure. Well, let me back up. So, since you've taught so many people, were there people that came through that were in the tech industry? And how would you say they?

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Differ or don't differ.

00:17:43 Madeline

Yes, there must have been people in the tech industry and they too, those people who were interested in also pursuing their inner world, their psychic world, their intuitive, emotional side.

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And that's what they're interested in doing. So they they took classes.

00:18:06 Merrily

Yeah, I would.

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Say that would be.

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Only beneficial right to maybe people who are in the tech industry are kind of maybe more introverted and more sort of in their head can only really be beneficial to like, explore the other areas of your.

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Body and your spirit, yeah.

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Let's see what question.

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Now I'm thinking of, well, I'm thinking of sort of.

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What has been a really weird?

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Because, like, these are always fascinating to me. So something that was kind of a I call it like a paranormal experience, that you may have had that you can.

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That maybe your psych, your psychic abilities. We're able to kind of explain it or help you explain it more.

00:18:56 Madeline

Actually, when I was a very beginning student at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, I worked at a video company. We made commercials and television shows and.

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They used to.

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Tease me about taking psychic classes until.

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One day.

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The vice president of the company, he walked by me and I go. Ohh yeah. Taylor. I had a dream about you last night. I dreamt that you and your friend Gary stayed in a strange white motel and that you had a little bit of a argument because one of you wanted to go home and and drive through straight through and go home. And the other one wanted to spend the night in the motel.

00:19:39 Madeline

Maybe because you had had.

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Too much to drink or something.

00:19:41 Madeline

OK.

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And so I am I described what the motel look like and I described the argument.

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Hey, there's mouth dropped open and he goes. Yeah, we did spend the night in motel, and his friend Gary also worked at at the video place. So I ran to Garry's office before anybody could call him.

00:20:05 Madeline

And I casually walked in and I asked him if he had spent the night in the motel and he said yes. Why are you asking? And I know they were not teasing me because later the vice, the President of the company, came to me. And he said, Madeline, will you spy on people for me?

00:20:27 Merrily

Like no, but you kind of did. But you really wasn't. You weren't meant meaning to.

00:20:31 Madeline

So so as a beginning student, that was very, very validating that yes, there is an astral.

00:20:41 Madeline

You can experience interesting things on the astral, and there were some other dreams. I don't remember them now, but some other things that were pretty interesting.

00:20:50 Merrily

Cool. Yeah, that I remember that story. It says really cool story. I guess this is kind of a a strange question only because I know how long have you been in the building in the Blue House at with psychic awakenings?

00:21:03 Madeline

Oh, I've been in the blue house the whole time. 717 years.

00:21:11 Madeline

And I'm on this. I'm on the lease with one of the women who work upstairs as acupuncturist, and we get along really well, and we sublet 2 of the other offices, and we have a wonderful, wonderful landlady who likes what we do. And so I'm amazed that.

00:21:33 Madeline

We have this wonderful big old house just on the edge of the of the Queen and business district. So we get, walk, bike traffic and so I feel really lucky because the rent is also very reasonable.

00:21:48 Merrily

Yeah, yeah. It's a great space. And basically you walk into the Blue house, there's like a really cool energy there, and it's nice to know that you have my acupuncturist is is in the blue house too.

00:22:06 Merrily

And so that's how I found psychic awakenings. But yeah, there's such a cool energy there. I guess this is kind of I've never experienced anything strange at the Blue House, but have you ever had any sort of strange experience there?

00:22:22 Madeline

Yes, lots of them. But my favorite story to tell is that we have healing clinics on Monday evenings when people are invited to come in and see what we.

00:22:34 Madeline

Have to offer.

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And years ago, I was at the Healing Clinic and the teacher who teaches the healing classes was in charge, and a young man came in and he started to tell us how he's had this being, this spirit in his life.

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Ever since he was a little kid, he was aware of this spirit.

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And the healing teacher said, well, what you need to do is to go home and sit that spirit down in a chair and ask him to tell you his story and.

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At that moment.

00:23:13 Merrily

All the lights went out.

00:23:15 Madeline

Well, and we're sitting in the dark lights, what's going on? And we looked out the window and all the lights across the street and all the businesses were on.

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So finally the teacher says I said.

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When you get home.

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And then at that moment all.

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The lights came.

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Back on and so again it's it's experiences like that where you know you're not making it up.

00:23:41 Merrily

That that seems a little too convenient. That that that. Yeah.

00:23:44 Merrily

That's pretty funny. Oh, man.

00:23:48 Merrily

So my next question kind of ties into what psychic awakenings does for sure, but I'm curious around if you've noticed any sort of difference. You know, after COVID or during COVID 2020?

00:24:01 Merrily

With like the amount of students or the type of students that are coming in or anything like that.

00:24:07 Madeline

No, the only thing I.

00:24:09 Madeline

Noticed was at the beginning. Business fell off because.

00:24:15 Madeline

That was before we got zoom up and running before the pandemic. We didn't have zoom and it was all in person, so business fell off. But we did get zoom up and running the week before the lockdown, so fortunately we were able to continue our classes.

00:24:33 Madeline

And eventually people.

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Started coming back in.

00:24:39 Merrily

So can you talk about, I mean, I know I've taken the all of basically all your programs. I think they're wonderful. Can you talk about sort of how you thought about the?

00:24:50 Merrily

Way you've structured.

00:24:51 Merrily

It and what what your thinking process was in that?

00:24:56 Madeline

Well, we still prefer.

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For people to come in person to the classes.

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Because there's a.

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Lot of exercises and games that we play in the classes.

00:25:09 Madeline

But then there's people who live further away and cannot come in person, and they want they're entitled to the information also. So in every class we do have one or two people who zooming in because they live a lot further away, like in another state. And there's even a time where somebody.

00:25:29 Madeline

Was zooming in from France for beginning class.

00:25:35 Merrily

That's amazing. It must been either really late or early, early for that person. So I find it interesting because the way your program is structured, you have you start out with psychic tools 101 and 102, which are amazing. And then you lead into healing hands. And I was always curious about.

00:25:55 Merrily

Why? Why do the psychic work? And then why start doing healing work as well? Like what?

00:26:02 Merrily

Was what's thinking.

00:26:04 Madeline

And the psychic tools classes you learn about managing your own energy, about being grounded and centered and opening up your own psychic abilities and owning them. And then by doing healings for other people, you just learn so much more.

00:26:23 Madeline

Or you'll give it healing to one person, and you can feel that their order is almost non-existent and they want to be invisible. And then you'll do a healing for another person and their aura. You'll notice that their aura fills up the whole room. So every time you do a healing for somebody, you learn something new.

00:26:44 Madeline

About energy and about spirit.

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And and it's by interacting with people that.

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We all grow.

00:26:55 Merrily

Yeah, I would.

00:26:56 Merrily

Say, at least for me as a personally as a student like I I wasn't. I was a little like, oh, I'll take the healing hands, but I don't, you know, I'm not sure I don't. I was a little, I guess, skeptical in a.

00:27:09 Merrily

Way about it.

00:27:12 Merrily

But then it's like you start doing like pretty much exactly what you said. You start doing it.

00:27:17 Merrily

And then it's like oh.

00:27:19 Merrily

But you are noticing things and then you can feel the energy moving.

00:27:24 Merrily

And and you're picking up information as you go along, which is also really weird. And I'm always shocked, like, you know, as I'm working with somebody and then, you know, I'm narrating kind of what's happening or what I'm seeing with them physically, because a lot of that energy work that we're doing does show up as, like a physical pain.

00:27:45 Merrily

And it's like, oh, that was actually right. That was actually correct. Like ohh OK.

00:27:51 Madeline

You mean the physical pain that?

00:27:52 Madeline

You feel in your body? Well, yeah, I tend.

00:27:55 Merrily

To feel somebody like if they're having, like, a physical pain, I'll either feel it in my my body or I'll see it like as I'm going along and kind of feeling their energy space. I'll kind of sort of see like a block or something, and then they'll, like, ask them about it.

00:28:11 Merrily

Like, oh, I'm feeling this pain here or how I see this like in your knee. It's like looking like it's really stiff or something, you know? And they're like, yeah, it's been there for a long time. I was like.

00:28:22 Merrily

So OK, yeah. So it's very validating in a lot of ways.

00:28:26 Madeline

In fact, I really prefer now to advertise my readings as healings, and I do a lot of teaching in my readings. It's it's like teaching a man to fish. Yeah, so that they can go home and continue to heal themselves.

00:28:45 Merrily

Right. Yeah. I think that's incredibly powerful and that is something that you know.

00:28:50 Merrily

We're able to do as well when we're giving healings because we've learned the tools, right we can.

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Be like.

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Yeah, we can work.

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On this.

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And when you got get home, you know.

00:29:01 Merrily

Yeah, So what would?

00:29:04 Merrily

So when did you start introducing the Clairvoyant awareness program? And you can tell us a little bit about that program.

00:29:10 Merrily

1st but yeah.

00:29:11 Madeline

Well, well, to answer your question, let's say I started teaching the six week classes in April of 2006 and then after about a year and a half or two years, I had enough people interested in going further and learning how to do readings for other people.

00:29:32 Madeline

So I started at the Clairvoyant awareness program.

00:29:37 Madeline

In 2008.

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And that's about.

00:29:42 Madeline

Learning how to sit down and communicate energetically and spiritually with somebody else, and it's where it's where all.

00:29:53 Madeline

The growth and.

00:29:54 Madeline

Learning happens especially well for the students in the Clairvoyant training program.

00:30:00 Madeline

You learn a whole bunch in by doing the readings because the people who come in.

00:30:05 Madeline

Are are mirrors.

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And so you'll learn a lot about yourself, and you'll also learn how to.

00:30:11 Merrily

Communicate with people it's like.

00:30:15 Madeline

If you see something dark and scary, how do you present it in a way that's not dark and scary to the the client so they learn how to communicate, and that's where you develop confidence in your ability to perceive.

00:30:39 Merrily

Yeah, yeah, it's definitely really, uh, I think it's a really great program. There's a lot of things, tools that were new to me as we went along that.

00:30:48 Merrily

I found really helpful.

00:30:52 Merrily

How would you say?

00:30:54 Merrily

Like, there's kind of talk right now, at least the podcasts and different people that I listen to and or read about sort of their own people having spiritually transformative experiences now. Meaning, like, somebody's going through sort of like kundalini awakening, they've been seeing ghosts like.

00:31:16 Merrily

How do you?

00:31:17 Merrily

Think that this like how I don't know how to phrase this. How?

00:31:23 Merrily

How would psychic tools help with sort of people who?

00:31:28 Merrily

Are just going through a strange experience with their, like psychic abilities.

00:31:33 Merrily

Kind of turning.

00:31:33 Madeline

On in the psychic tools 101 class we teach people how to be grounded and centered, and to manage their energy. So if you're going through and and.

00:31:48 Madeline

Sense spiritual awakening or kundalini awakening, we give you tools for how to deal with that energy.

00:31:58 Madeline

For how to be grounded and centered and protect your space while you are opening up to all kinds of amazing things.

00:32:09 Merrily

Would you say?

00:32:09 Merrily

That what is grounding like? How would you explain grounding to somebody who hasn't heard?

00:32:15 Merrily

About it grounding.

00:32:17 Madeline

Is connecting your body your energetic feel to the center of the earth?

00:32:26 Madeline

And the earth energy is very dense and solid.

00:32:32 Madeline

And so by hooking your energy into the earth, it helps people to calm down and feel more solid, more focused, more concentrated in their bodies.

00:32:47 Merrily

Would you say it?

00:32:49 Merrily

That there's a lot of sort of message, I would say there's a lot of messages going through people's minds that aren't their own, that they're kind of listening to and that kind of helps with that.

00:33:02 Merrily

So this kind of goes into that, I guess this goes into my next question like what is your favorite tool to teach out of all the tools that you teach there's got?

00:33:13 Merrily

To be like one that's your favorite.

00:33:18 Madeline

Well, actually my favorite is teaching people how to read and watching them get the confidence. But I think the most them.

00:33:27

For me.

00:33:30 Madeline

The one tool that I think really makes the biggest difference is teaching people how to be in their own heads, and for some people it's such an awakening because we spend so much time flying around. Wherever you put your attention is where you are and you're being pulled in 18.

00:33:49 Madeline

Different different directions during the day and to be in your own head so that you can think clearly is really powerful, so you can know who you are so you can figure out, well, Gee, these thoughts aren't my thoughts. Where did they come from?

00:34:07 Madeline

Or you can be aware when somebody's trying to program you to do something you don't want to do, and just even being aware of things like that is very empowering also.

00:34:21 Merrily

Yeah. So like when you're describing sort of people, they're sort of the tensions flying around a lot of times people are either thinking about the past all the time or they're thinking about the future, like they're thinking about things that happened in the past or they're like worried about things that are happening in the future. They're never.

00:34:38 Merrily

Like there's never like that space for them to actually exist. So yeah. Yeah. So I think it's that's a very good point. So we talked about a little, we talked about your curriculum, but I know that you have other. So if you wanted to go in a little bit more.

00:34:58 Merrily

Description Around how the the step process works and then the additional workshops that you have that psychic awakenings as well.

00:35:07 Madeline

Well, how how the steps work in like we were talking about how in the psychic tools classes you learn basic tools for managing your own energy and starting to figure out who you are as a spirit in the body. And then in the healing classes you expand your knowledge by working with.

00:35:28 Madeline

People. And then in the clairvoyant. And so those beginning classes each are six weeks and there's four of them. And then the clairvoyant training program Clairvoyant Awareness program is 11 months and the 1st 12 weeks are all about how to read.

00:35:48 Madeline

How to sit in line with other readers and match the energy? How to be energized stuff that gets lit up? You know, by reading people who are different than you, your own stuff gets triggered and how to neutralize that so you can can continue.

00:36:09 Madeline

And then after 12 weeks, people will pretty much get it how to read. And then we so we go into other topics like Astro traveling and communicating with animals and communicating with people who've passed over and advanced healing techniques.

00:36:27 Madeline

So that's how the progression works.

00:36:33 Merrily

And what are some additional like workshops that you offer with all the the main program I guess is what?

00:36:43 Madeline

I like having guest teachers come and teach classes to the Clairvoyant awareness program, and when they come I usually try to make it an open workshop for people. We post it on meet up such Ms. so that's a good opportunity for the.

00:37:02 Madeline

Communicating with animals to be a workshop for the public and communicating with people with people who passed over, we always offer that in October. Another workshop we offer is intuitive writing or automatic writing.

00:37:21 Madeline

And it in December, around the holidays, Sarah likes to offer an Angel workshop, communicating with your angels, and she also likes to present a gratitude and prosperity workshop as well.

00:37:39 Merrily

Yeah, yeah, I definitely. I think I've taken all the workshops, even like I've done. I loved Sarah's Angel workshop was really.

00:37:48 Merrily

Saying, yeah, there's a lot of really other other good classes in addition to what your main offering is. So what I guess where do you want psychic awakenings to go and if or where do you see psychic awakenings in the future and what direction do?

00:38:04 Merrily

You want to go with it.

00:38:07 Madeline

Well, I've been doing this for 17 years and so I don't have any grand plans to make any to grow it any bigger, even though we are training two more teachers. So we'll have more teachers.

00:38:23 Madeline

But it works the way it.

00:38:25 Madeline

Is and I don't have any really big plans.

00:38:27 Madeline

To take it anywhere.

00:38:30 Merrily

OK.

00:38:31 Merrily

Yeah, I mean if it's.

00:38:32 Merrily

Working why? You know why change.

00:38:34 Merrily

It any. So we're kind of wrapping up here, but what are some either I've been saying like mantra or a motto or phrase that you like to go to in your everyday life?

00:38:49 Madeline

My my favorite motto is this is going to turn out better than I can imagine.

00:38:59 Madeline

And that that helps you to let it go and let the universe do its thing.

00:39:06 Merrily

That's great, yes.

00:39:07 Madeline

And it works.

00:39:09 Merrily

It does. Cool. Yeah, just kind of release it and not.

00:39:15 Merrily

Let it take up so much space that's so cool. Like what? Contact information that you'd like to share, where people can go and find what you're doing. Find psychic wrong.

00:39:25 Madeline

Oh OK our website ispsychicawakenings.com.

00:39:32 Madeline

And you can find my phone number and Sarah's phone number on that is meet.

00:39:38 Madeline

Up dot cash.

00:39:40 Madeline

Psychic hyphen, awakenings, hyphen C attle and.

00:39:48 Madeline

For a year, I posted videos on Instagram and.

00:39:54 Madeline

But but I don't do that anymore. I did it.

00:39:57 Madeline

For a year.

00:39:59 Madeline

And then I found making the the video for two or three minutes long, and they're still up there. So, so people, if they want to, can go to TikTok and Google psychic awakening in Seattle.

00:40:12 Merrily

So you have the meet up page and then also your website and you're on Instagram and Facebook.

00:40:20 Madeline

OK. Thank you very much.

00:40:24 Merrily

That was an interview with Madeline Hartman where we discussed her path to decide to found an open a psychic school. You can reach Madeleine and Psychic Awakenings at the website psychicawakeningseattle.com. There's also a meet up group, Psychic Awakenings Seattle. You can also find Psychic Awakenings on Facebook and Instagram to learn more about the Casual Temple podcast.

00:40:44 Merrily

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00:40:53 Merrily

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