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00:00:06 Merrily

This is episode 41 of Casual Temple and I'm your host Merrily Duffy here at casual temple, we are discovering our connection to the unseen world of spirit and how that empowers us to know our true selves. Once support our journey, subscribe and leave a star review on your favorite podcast.

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We love hearing from you, so visit casualtemple.com to share your thoughts. Join our mailing list for a chance to win a free or reading with me. Merrily you pick a winner every month and your name? Susan till you win. Today we have back to the show. Tara reader and esotericist. Fleetwood haddock. This time we're diving deep into the mysteries of Mercury retrograde.

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What is mercury retrograde, really? Is that the chaos we all fear, or could it offer a unique opportunity to relax and reflect?

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Fleetwood shares practical tips fascinating astrological insights and even some personal stories to help you navigate this celestial phenomenon with ease. We'll breakdown the phases and themes so you're fully prepared for the upcoming retrograde season. Stay tuned as we explore grounding tending cosmic correspondences, and how Mercury's energy can guide us through challenges.

00:01:13 Merrily

The opportunities of life. This is the casual temple for the stars are our guide.

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Today, you guys, we have the pleasure of welcoming back the casual Temple Fleetwood Haddock. Fleetwood is a talented tarot reader and esotericist. Today we're going to have a chat about Mercury retrograde and some tips and tricks to help get you through.

00:01:43 Merrily

So Fleetwood happy to have you back on.

00:01:44 Merrily

The casual temple. Hello.

00:01:47 Fleetwood

Happy to be here. Very happy to be here.

00:01:49 Merrily

Oh, glad yes. I really loved our conversation and I think either I can't remember if it was during that conversation offline or in a discord. You mentioned something about.

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Chatting about Mercury, Richard and I that.

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Was such a good idea.

00:02:05 Fleetwood

Yeah, it's it's a helpful. I feel like I've got a few survival tips from working in the tech industry that might be able to help some folks.

00:02:12 Merrily

That's right.

00:02:15 Merrily

Yeah. So I think, yeah. So I think you have really good insight into it and I, you know, and we have a mercury retrograde coming up here in 2024. So it is November 24th through December 15th. So it's coming up and I'm planning on releasing you know, our talk today hopefully right before then.

00:02:36 Merrily

So hopefully get you know, help some people out.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah. So let's just talk Mercury retrograde. Like, how would you describe it to somebody who wouldn't?

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Know what it is.

00:02:51 Fleetwood

That's always the hardest one is. It's funny, but I think of it as Murphy's law time of year.

00:02:53 Merrily

Yes.

00:03:04 Fleetwood

What can go wrong will?

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Go wrong type of thing.

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And it's just the time to make sure you've got your stuff lined up, your eyes dotted and your T's crossed because you know the it's like having the health inspector come around.

00:03:16 Merrily

MHM.

00:03:22 Fleetwood

You got to make sure you're on the ball, because otherwise you're going to get dinged for it more than you normally would.

00:03:29 Merrily

Yeah.

00:03:31 Fleetwood

That's how I would kind of describe it to someone that.

00:03:35 Fleetwood

Was totally unfamiliar with it. Just is energy of not many, no safety net.

00:03:37 Merrily

Yeah.

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Yes, no safety net for sure. And then?

00:03:48 Merrily

Yeah, because it's related to the. I mean, it's our planet Mercury. And then the idea of, like, the Greek God, Mercury or Hermes. So it's things around travel, electronics communication.

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The exchange of.

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Money, like all the things that really in our modern day like.

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Really. Like make things go round.

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And yeah, it causes people a lot of stress.

00:04:13 Fleetwood

Very, very much so.

00:04:15 Merrily

Yeah. Well, like, how was your last Mercury retrograde? Because I know you chatted a little bit about that.

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Before.

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Before.

00:04:24 Fleetwood

Well, the last one over the summer was quite eventful for me. But before we get into that, actually it brings up something.

00:04:35 Fleetwood

And I wanted to mention too. So you said that it was going to be starting on the.

00:04:43 Fleetwood

25th of November to December 5th.

00:04:49 Fleetwood

Sorry, December 15th.

00:04:52 Fleetwood

And I just wanted to point out that we are actually already in the mercury retrograde period because the mercury has already entered its shadow as of November 7th.

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Oh.

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Oh.

00:05:08 Fleetwood

So what that means is that when mercury goes retrograde, it literally travels backwards along the same path.

00:05:18 Merrily

Hmm.

00:05:19 Fleetwood

And on November 7th was when it passed the point in the sky that it's going to return back to.

00:05:27 Merrily

Oh OK. Wow.

00:05:29 Fleetwood

And so if you think about the the travel, if it starts here, goes out.

00:05:37 Fleetwood

Comes back and then goes forward again.

00:05:43 Fleetwood

The same point in space gets traveled over three separate times.

00:05:48 Merrily

All right.

00:05:50 Fleetwood

And so the important dates to know are when mercury enters the shadow period, when it first crosses that mark, which for the upcoming retrograde is 6° of Sagittarius.

00:06:07 Fleetwood

In case anyone out there is wondering.

00:06:10 Fleetwood

Then you have when it stations retrograde, which is when the the motion actually stops and the like in the sky when it stations retrograde, it would appear that the planet has totally stopped moving.

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Hmm.

00:06:25 Fleetwood

But it's really it gradually slows down and gets slower and slower and slower until the retrograde point and then begins slowly moving backwards and then is speeding up to get to where it stations direct later. There's an important point in between though, too.

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Which is called the kazini.

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And that's when Mercury intersects the sun.

00:06:53 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:06:55 Fleetwood

And it marks the halfway point of the retrograde on December 5th.

00:07:04 Fleetwood

And then so yeah, when it's it's little station direct on.

00:07:10 Fleetwood

December 15th, but then it won't leave the shadow, even though it it starts moving forwards again, it isn't back into new territory again until actually January 2nd.

00:07:25 Merrily

OK.

00:07:27 Fleetwood

So you can kind of think of this whole time period as having a theme is the way I like to think of it.

00:07:34 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:07:36 Fleetwood

And so the last mercury retrograde a few days after we entered the shadow period, I was in a very, very minor car accident. I got rear-ended by someone not paying attention and.

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The.

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Check for the payment that I was supposed to get on top of having all sorts of rigamarole in the car. Like technically getting totaled, and even though it was running perfectly fine and like was barely hurt, of course that's how it goes.

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Mm-hmm.

00:08:15 Fleetwood

Then the check for the payment literally was mailed to me and never showed up. So literally had something get lost in the mail, which is very common for mercury retrograde themes.

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Right.

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MHM.

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And when the check was finally cleared, I found out a lot of the places that I've been talking to about getting the car fixed don't actually work on totaled vehicles. So I had to find a place that would take a vehicle that had been totaled.

00:08:51 Fleetwood

Which is something I totally hadn't considered. Yeah, so it was. Yeah. You know, just the things that you don't have to know until.

00:08:55 Merrily

I wouldn't know that.

00:09:00 Fleetwood

It comes up but.

00:09:00 Merrily

Right.

00:09:01 Fleetwood

That's why it's a great example of the mercury retrograde story, because whatever you're dealing with will be something you were unaware of previously.

00:09:05 Merrily

Ah.

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Hmm.

00:09:12 Fleetwood

Yeah, something that comes up out of.

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You're like, oh.

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The blue.

00:09:15 Merrily

Right, like comes up and is. Yeah. Now in your face and you have to deal with it but.

00:09:22 Speaker 2

Yep.

00:09:23 Merrily

Oh gosh, yeah. I, you know, I was talking with my husband, JC, about Mercury retrograde. And he had, like, an interesting thought around it. Like, his interpretation is thinking about like mercury as like a person. Right. And so, you know, he's great when he's great. He's, like, getting all things done.

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Quickly and fast, like the communications, the electronics, all the things. But he also needs a break. And so he he thinks it's like his time to take a break. Right. Like he's so maybe those things aren't going to, like, operate as smoothly as they normally.

00:09:49 Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah.

00:10:00 Merrily

We do, we all need breaks.

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We all need to take a chill.

00:10:03 Fleetwood

Yeah, no, maybe that's a good way to put it. There's like a the the bosses and around to oversee all the transactions.

00:10:14 Merrily

Like that.

00:10:15 Merrily

Oh yeah. So he's like, maybe we need to take. And then I also think there's a component of like, you know, it's also the mind. And so we're always, you know, especially in our modern day, we use our minds quite a bit from everything.

00:10:29 Fleetwood

MHM.

00:10:29 Merrily

And so maybe we need to, like, relax our minds during that time and, like, take it easier or whatever.

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Yeah.

00:10:37 Fleetwood

Definitely.

00:10:38 Merrily

So. So in that vein, do you have you? I just feel like there's a lot of media around Mercury retrograde even in like, regular.

00:10:48 Merrily

I don't know. Like.

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Online news. Things talk about it now, but it's always around like kind of this scary thing. Why do you think people freak out?

00:10:57 Merrily

About about mercury retrograde.

00:11:00 Fleetwood

I mean, it's the same kind of thing with, I mean.

00:11:04 Fleetwood

I think there's a lot of folks that will freak out about anything these days. Especially online. Yeah, there's no shortage of freak out, so that's for sure. But I think it's the same kind of way that we freak out about the idea of the power going out.

00:11:07 Merrily

True.

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Yes.

00:11:21 Merrily

Hmm yeah.

00:11:22 Speaker 2

Is that?

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A.

00:11:24 Fleetwood

Heart sinking moment when all the sounds that you take for granted in the house come to a stop and it's you get moments like that with Mercury retrograde just and I think little smaller tidbits unless your power actually does go out, which is something that I would definitely associate with it.

00:11:30 Merrily

Right.

00:11:40 Merrily

Right.

00:11:46 Speaker 2

But it is.

00:11:49 Fleetwood

You know things that you come to rely on becoming unreliable, right?

00:11:55 Fleetwood

And that's always, you know, bound to shake.

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Things up a.

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Little bit.

00:11:58 Merrily

Yeah, for sure.

00:12:01 Merrily

Yeah.

00:12:04 Merrily

So as a person in tech, how would you like have people prepare themselves? Or or mercury retrograde or tips and?

00:12:15 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:12:15 Merrily

Tricks for that?

00:12:18 Fleetwood

Well, this kind of applies even outside of a mercury retrograde. I feel like we all know people that.

00:12:27 Fleetwood

Everything seems to break in their hands when they touch it electronically.

00:12:32 Merrily

MHM.

00:12:34 Fleetwood

I think everybody has one relative like that in their family, or at least every tech person that I know, right?

00:12:41 Fleetwood

At least one person like that, and it's funny.

00:12:45 Fleetwood

A lot of.

00:12:45 Fleetwood

The folks that I work with in the tech industry seem to be the opposite of that.

00:12:53 Fleetwood

Like if you've ever had the experience of taking your car to a mechanic and the noise stops right as you pull it in the parking lot, I think that's more than just coincidence. I think there's different. You know, that's the place where things get fixed. And so it's it's more more fixed while it's there.

00:13:00 Merrily

Ram.

00:13:09 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:13:13 Fleetwood

And I think some people have a different kind of aura when it comes to, like electronics, generally speaking.

00:13:20 Merrily

MHM.

00:13:22 Fleetwood

But I have a personal theory that it relates to how grounded you are as a person.

00:13:32 Fleetwood

Which kind of there's something I want to explain about that. The way I use that term. So there's grounded, there's ungrounded, but then there's like.

00:13:44 Fleetwood

Tapped into the Super consciousness slash like Galaxy Brain mode that I think is the opposite of groundedness.

00:13:54 Fleetwood

But it's different from being ungrounded.

00:13:58 Fleetwood

If that makes sense, because I don't know if you've ever done a grounding meditation where you really sit and feel yourself get rooted into the earth.

00:14:08 Fleetwood

UM.

00:14:10 Fleetwood

It's a really slowing, relaxing feeling and you know it it.

00:14:18 Fleetwood

Trying to use a computer grounded is like trying to ask a tortoise to be a mail carrier. You know the rabbit might be less reliable, but he's definitely going to get it there faster.

00:14:32 Fleetwood

And you want to, to me, being in a spiritual sense when you're ungrounded, you don't have that rooted, tethered nature that a grounding meditation will give you.

00:14:48 Fleetwood

But there are other meditations where you kind of open up the top of your head and pull in light from above.

00:14:55 Fleetwood

Of you.

00:14:56 Fleetwood

Sometimes you do it in tandem with grounding and like kind of, you know, mix the energies inside yourself. I think the the middle pillar exercise is one that does that.

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Mm-hmm.

00:15:10 Fleetwood

But what I've kind of adapted is doing, let's say.

00:15:16 Fleetwood

Taking the middle pillar as an example, doing just.

00:15:20 Fleetwood

The top half, so to speak.

00:15:24 Fleetwood

Where you're tapping into what's above instead of what's below.

00:15:30 Fleetwood

It doesn't leave you ungrounded, but to say that you're grounded and it would be a misnomer, and I haven't quite come up with a good term for it as much as I was thinking about it over the last week in preparation for this. But I I think.

00:15:50 Fleetwood

Being Galaxy brained is the way I like to think of it. That and it really is a good way.

00:15:58 Fleetwood

To use a computer.

00:16:00 Fleetwood

Because at the end of the day, the most effective way to use a computer is the way that the programmer is intended.

00:16:08 Fleetwood

And so there's an ideal thought process out there that I feel like you can tap into when you're using technology that is helpful.

00:16:19 Fleetwood

Totally outside of a, you know, grounded, ungrounded perspective.

00:16:25 Fleetwood

But and maybe it is tapping into that kind of mercury energy.

00:16:29 Fleetwood

Out there that helps you view the program or the application the way it was intended to be viewed rather than with your own previous biases.

00:16:41 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:16:42 Fleetwood

You know.

00:16:44 Fleetwood

I think having that kind of mentality helps with your.

00:16:49 Fleetwood

Field, so to speak, in the way that you interact with the technology itself.

00:16:54 Fleetwood

UM.

00:16:56 Fleetwood

I hope that kind of.

00:16:57 Fleetwood

Makes.

00:16:57 Merrily

Sense. Ohh yeah. Yeah it does. It's kind of like sinking from what I was getting when you're describing. It's like sinking your brain to the person that made whatever the software or program that you're using.

00:17:11 Merrily

And it's like.

00:17:11 Fleetwood

Yeah, and not even just the person that made it, but all the other thousands of people that used it and figured out, maybe little tips and tricks that even the designer didn't intend.

00:17:16 Merrily

Right.

00:17:25 Speaker 2

But it is.

00:17:28 Fleetwood

I feel like.

00:17:29 Fleetwood

When you're having trouble with technology, taking a minute to do an exercise to open up the top of your head, to what's out there can really help you step back and relax and.

00:17:44 Fleetwood

Come at it with a fresh mindset.

00:17:47 Fleetwood

You know.

00:17:49 Fleetwood

And a mercury retrograde time period, you're certainly more likely to need that kind of a tool, but it's a good tool to have, regardless of when you need it.

00:17:55 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:18:00 Merrily

Yeah. Would you mind not maybe. Not necessarily. Walking us through like a full meditation, but can you describe how you would?

00:18:09 Merrily

Do this kind of Galaxy brain. I know you kind of mentioned opening up. Can you kind of describe?

00:18:15 Merrily

How you would.

00:18:16 Merrily

Do it.

00:18:17 Fleetwood

Yeah. So the same way that like when you do a grounding exercise, you straighten your back, you sit with your feet on the floor.

00:18:17 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:18:29 Fleetwood

And you know, it would probably be a good idea for a lot of people, especially if you're familiar with grounding to just go ahead and do a grounding exercise beforehand. I don't think it's gonna hurt anything, especially if you do the other one second.

00:18:47 Fleetwood

But ground yourself, feel that connection the way you with each breath.

00:18:55 Fleetwood

Because that's at least how I was taught to do it. You with each inhale, you pull the energy up from the earth into your body. And with each exhale, you exhale out. What is impure or not needed from you as you're filled with the energy of the.

00:18:58 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:19:12 Fleetwood

Earth.

00:19:14 Fleetwood

So instead of being filled.

00:19:15 Fleetwood

From the bottom up you get filled from the top down. So with each inhale you I like to envision like either the sun if it's daytime or the moon at night, or sometimes.

00:19:27 Fleetwood

It's like I think of like the galactic core or just like maybe the very center of the universe, just whatever is in a straight line up from the top of my head.

00:19:41 Fleetwood

At that given moment, but.

00:19:44 Fleetwood

I think of it as this beam of light beam of energy, with each breath coming down through the crown above my head and.

00:19:58 Fleetwood

Kind of like those.

00:20:01 Fleetwood

Flippy things that people will have in their bathroom to the colored oil and the air bubbles slot places. Yeah, I think of that when I'm meditating. Sometimes the way that the the oil will fall down and the air fills it from the top down. So kind of think of like that.

00:20:04 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:20:06 Merrily

Oh yeah.

00:20:18 Merrily

Hmm.

00:20:20 Fleetwood

Where each breath is filling your head and the neck and then shoulders and then chest and then abdomen down to your feet.

00:20:29 Fleetwood

And then sit there with that light filling your body, and then go back to your task the same way you would as if you were grounded.

00:20:39 Merrily

Cool. Yeah. Thanks for walking us through that.

00:20:43 Merrily

I kind of like the visual of.

00:20:44 Merrily

The wheel sensor.

00:20:46 Merrily

Is a good one, yeah.

00:20:49 Merrily

I am.

00:20:52 Fleetwood

I have really bad ADHD, so my mind tend to wanders real bad when I try to meditate, but I've I've definitely found.

00:20:55 Merrily

Oh really?

00:20:59 Merrily

Meditation.

00:21:04 Fleetwood

Kind of the things that my mind gravitates towards tend to relate to how I'm meditating, and so finding those little things like that that it reminds me of kind of, I don't know when I'm meditating, will give me something to latch on to and.

00:21:22 Fleetwood

Kind of entertain that part of my brain a little bit better while I'm trying to calm down.

00:21:27 Fleetwood

And relax it.

00:21:28 Merrily

Right. Yeah, I do think that's what. Yeah, for sure. That's happened in meditation for me as well, where you're just, like, making all these connection points, maybe even about the meditation itself. So that's a good point. That's a good point.

00:21:42 Merrily

UM, let's see. Well, do you think or in your experience, have you seen any sort of connection with like, astrologer, astrological, birth charts, like either your own or other peoples and whether or not they have a a stronger effect?

00:22:03 Merrily

Or like protection, even maybe during mercury retrograde?

00:22:07 Fleetwood

I would say absolutely, 100%, yes. And there's a real easy way for even non astrologers to kind of tell if, hey, is this one going to be rocky or?

00:22:10 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:22:21 Fleetwood

Not.

00:22:21

Hmm.

00:22:22 Fleetwood

Or depending on like how spread out your planets and stuff are.

00:22:27 Fleetwood

You can look up your chart and see. So like this upcoming retrograde goes from six degrees Sagittarius to 22° Sagittarius.

00:22:40 Fleetwood

And so personally, I don't have anything in Sagittarius. All my stuff is in Capricorn and Scorpio.

00:22:48 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:22:50 Fleetwood

But Sagittarius.

00:22:53 Fleetwood

Is a mutable sign.

00:22:58 Fleetwood

And so.

00:23:01 Fleetwood

Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces are the four mutable signs, and if you look at it on the wheel of the Zodiac, they make like a four pointed cross.

00:23:15 Merrily

Hmm.

00:23:17 Fleetwood

If you were to look at those four signs, so if you have it's it's good to know if your signs like especially your sun, moon and rising. If you're mutable, fixed or cardinal sign.

00:23:34 Fleetwood

That can would be helpful. Do you?

00:23:35 Fleetwood

Think if I go through.

00:23:36 Fleetwood

Which ones are which?

00:23:37 Merrily

Yeah, sure.

00:23:39 Fleetwood

So yeah, cardinal signs are Aries, Cancer, Libra, Capricorn, Mutable or Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces. And fixed signs or Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius.

00:23:55 Fleetwood

And the.

00:23:58 Fleetwood

Biggest difference between them or one like the it's kind of like tarot cards. There's lots of different correspondences between the types, but the.

00:24:07 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:24:11 Fleetwood

Since there's three different kinds, and there's.

00:24:14 Fleetwood

Four in each category, there's one in each season of the year is another.

00:24:22 Fleetwood

Way to look at.

00:24:25 Fleetwood

And so the.

00:24:29 Fleetwood

Cardinal signs is when the season first comes in.

00:24:35 Fleetwood

The fixed sign is in the middle of the season when it's the most like that season, and then the mutable sign is when the season is starting to fade into the next one.

00:24:50 Fleetwood

But if you know whether you're cardinal fixed or mutable because they make that you.

00:24:56 Fleetwood

Know.

00:24:57 Fleetwood

Cross sign across the Zodiac. You know that even if it's not in your sign.

00:25:06 Fleetwood

If anything going on in Sagittarius is going to be either opposing or making a square to the other mutable signs, and those tend to be the harsher aspects where it's going to really.

00:25:23 Fleetwood

Amplify the effect that it has on you.

00:25:28 Fleetwood

I should have written down where the.

00:25:35 Fleetwood

Retrograde was over the summer, but I'm sure it was in a fixed sign because I have Scorpio Taurus and Aquarius is my sun, moon and rising signs.

00:25:49 Fleetwood

So I'm yeah, I'm very fixed.

00:25:52 Fleetwood

So when stuff happens to one of the fixed signs, that always affects me pretty personally and on an intimate level, I'd say.

00:26:04 Fleetwood

So I've found it to be a really useful tool to know like like this will mean in Sagittarius, Sagittarius is mutable, not a big deal.

00:26:12 Merrily

For me, right. So you're probably going to, it's going to be fine.

00:26:16 Speaker 2

Yeah. Yep.

00:26:16 Merrily

For you.

00:26:19 Fleetwood

But Mercury Retrogrades 3 or 4 times every year, right? So you're probably going to get hit about once if you're unlucky twice a year, right?

00:26:31 Merrily

Well, that's good.

00:26:32 Merrily

To remember, maybe have people even look at their astrological charts a little closer to see, yeah.

00:26:39 Fleetwood

Yeah. Like for me, even though, like I said, Sun Moon and rising is Scorpio, Aquarius and Taurus.

00:26:50 Fleetwood

I have my Venus Uranus.

00:26:57 Fleetwood

Saturn and Neptune are all in.

00:27:03 Speaker 2

UM.

00:27:05 Fleetwood

Capricorn for me. So it's it's hard to when you have that many planets piled up on top of each other, it can be hard to tease apart their meaning sometimes. But I've noticed with Venus stuff especially that that.

00:27:22 Fleetwood

Cardinal signs will catch me up with that when it comes to like Venus Retrogrades, but that's a whole nother topic.

00:27:34 Merrily

I do think Venus, at least in my working she kind of does have a communication component only because, at least when I, you know, when I kind of work with her, it's like the familial or like kind of relationships between like, people that have a consistent.

00:27:54 Merrily

Relationships like your like your partner or your children, or like people close to you, yeah.

00:27:59 Fleetwood

Well, Venus handles law and business matters as well.

00:28:05 Merrily

That's right. That's right.

00:28:07 Fleetwood

Yeah, a lot of people forget that. But Venus also rule.

00:28:14 Fleetwood

Virgo, I believe. Or not Virgo?

00:28:19 Fleetwood

Libra Venus Rose, Libra, the scales of justice, and.

00:28:22 Merrily

That's right.

00:28:25 Merrily

Hmm.

00:28:27 Fleetwood

Like very much is a big part of Venusian energy.

00:28:33 Merrily

Yeah.

00:28:35 Merrily

Oh, and and then I was thinking around sort of because my own personal way my chart works, and I've done. I've had Christopher Warnock do. He has this thing where he does like a mage reading. It's pretty cool.

00:28:53 Speaker 2

Umm.

00:28:53 Merrily

But he'll figure out this particular. It's called the El Mutun figuris.

00:29:00 Merrily

And it's basically, uh, depending on certain factors in your birth chart, it creates like a number.

00:29:06 Merrily

And then whatever that number is, it corresponds to the the planet or not. The number corresponds, but if a particular planet is like has this these placements it makes like the largest number, and then that's your.

00:29:21 Merrily

Al mutton. Vigorous. And then mine happens to be mercury. So to me it's like most of the time. And I say this I'm saying this is what I'm going. I already told you that I'm traveling during this next retrograde. But like, I haven't really felt the effects of mercury grade on like.

00:29:40 Merrily

Like.

00:29:41 Merrily

Big massive scales, but I haven't really, but I'm going to be paying.

00:29:45 Merrily

Attention now because I have.

00:29:47 Merrily

The only one I think recently it wasn't the 1:00 during the summer, but I think there was one maybe in the.

00:29:52 Merrily

Spring.

00:29:53 Merrily

Because it was with a previous guest, Maria Bomani, like we were having like a pre chat interview and.

00:30:00 Merrily

Like.

00:30:01 Merrily

Somebody's in our Internets were not working.

00:30:04 Merrily

And so it was like.

00:30:05 Merrily

And we were both, like talking and laughing about how it was like, you know, Mercury retrograde. So.

00:30:10

Yeah.

00:30:10 Fleetwood

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:12 Merrily

Yeah, but yeah, thanks for walking through sort of like the astrological correspondences. And looking through that and now I'm going to be looking to see maybe during that time with Maria, what was going on, but.

00:30:26 Fleetwood

Well, and it's really, really I've been.

00:30:30 Fleetwood

Fascinated by.

00:30:32 Fleetwood

Much like, look back at the time around the 7th of November, if you can and look for a theme because like it could be something small, but it's that small thing that might be *********** behind the scene that then comes up on your trip.

00:30:37 Merrily

Hmm, OK.

00:30:52 Merrily

That's right.

00:30:54 Fleetwood

Yeah. And, you know, it might be something like you. Just you found a.

00:30:59 Fleetwood

Heads up, Penny on the ground and picked it up. That's something you might not even remember. And then you find a $50.00 bill while you're on vacation. Like there's all sorts of different ways it could work out.

00:31:08 Merrily

All right, yeah.

00:31:15 Speaker 2

But it's I it really.

00:31:19 Fleetwood

Seems to me that there's a correspondence that will come back around the three times at the start of the when it enters the shadow around the middle midpoint, or the kazimi, and then when it leaves the shadow.

00:31:35 Fleetwood

Over that like 3 month period or six week period, something like that.

00:31:40 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:31:44 Fleetwood

And I feel like it's there's I, I feel like that is such an important piece of if you want to learn something from it.

00:31:51

Hmm.

00:31:52 Fleetwood

And not not just be at the whims of the space weather.

00:31:57

Right.

00:31:59 Fleetwood

But if you want to actually glean some sort of lesson, it'll have to do with that theme that's coming up multiple times, and I think you are doomed to repeat the same retrograde mistakes until you learn the lesson there and.

00:32:02 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:32:15 Merrily

Hmm.

00:32:17 Merrily

I like. Yeah, that's a great thing to consider and think about. Now I'm having to go back in my memory about what's.

00:32:22 Speaker 2

OK.

00:32:25 Speaker 2

Was.

00:32:26 Fleetwood

That's actually something that came out for me studying about Venus Retrogrades and how they happen in the 8 year cycle.

00:32:30 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:32:35 Fleetwood

And it just kind of.

00:32:39 Fleetwood

Kept coming up around Mercury and around Mercury, but it's something that I think especially like I'm really bad about keeping a journal, but because the mercury retrograde is so fast, it's like things are still so fresh in your memory that I feel like it's a good time to learn lessons.

00:32:53 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:33:01 Fleetwood

Yeah, my I have mercury, the sun and Pluto all within two degrees of each other in my birth chart with Mars is a little bit further off, but they're all in SCO.

00:33:10 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:33:13 Fleetwood

Bill.

00:33:14 Merrily

Interesting.

00:33:16 Fleetwood

And the I had one astrological reading. The person said that because Mercury was so directly under the rays of the sun in my chart, they call it a melted mercury.

00:33:32 Fleetwood

And for me, Mercury has always been kind of this more fluid character, almost like the shape shifting side of it, I think is a little bit more exaggerated.

00:33:39 Speaker 2

Oh.

00:33:46

Hmm.

00:33:48 Fleetwood

Interesting.

00:33:50 Merrily

Yeah, that's another thing for people to look at. Yeah, that was something sort of what? You know, we were one or I was. I had on the question, like your own personal relationship with Mercury.

00:34:01 Merrily

Do you have maybe an example of like how that showed up as more?

00:34:06 Merrily

Like transitional or fluid.

00:34:09 Fleetwood

Well, it's, I think just in learning about.

00:34:13 Fleetwood

The spirit of mercury, or maybe my own spirit of mercury.

00:34:20 Fleetwood

But it's so fluid in every way you could imagine, like gender fluid.

00:34:28 Fleetwood

Form fluid just.

00:34:33 Fleetwood

Like the the way that I think of it is that mercury is the ultimate messenger.

00:34:39 Fleetwood

But to be the ultimate messenger, you have to be able to assume any form because there are places that only women can go. For instance, only birds can go in different mythology.

00:34:54 Fleetwood

It's like there are places that only the dead can go and you have to be able to fully take messages to every part of creation, so to speak. You have to be able to become each one of those and turn to deliver the messages.

00:35:11 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:35:13 Merrily

Ohh.

00:35:15 Merrily

Oh yeah, that's really interesting to think about. I like that quite a bit.

00:35:19 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:35:21 Merrily

Ohh, let's see. We're gonna move in here. Uh, what are?

00:35:26 Merrily

Some do you have?

00:35:27 Merrily

Any specific rituals or anything that you do for either mercury retrograde or just Mercury or Hermes in general?

00:35:38 Fleetwood

I would say I haven't done anything besides like just my general Galaxy brain stuff.

00:35:45 Merrily

M.

00:35:47 Fleetwood

For Mercury retrograde, but I definitely have worked a lot with Mercury, just as like that psycho pumping figure that can like I almost use.

00:35:56 Speaker 2

Right.

00:35:56

Thanks.

00:35:59 Fleetwood

Mercury is like an intercessor, like the way some people use Saints as because they can take messages to anyone. If you're trying to work with a new deity, Mercury is a really, really, really good place to start. Or if you want to get into deity work or.

00:36:16

Mm-hmm.

00:36:20 Fleetwood

Work with any sort of entities really. Mercury is such a good first one because you can then go to mercury to kind of like.

00:36:29 Fleetwood

Introduce you to anyone else you want to get to know.

00:36:32 Merrily

Yeah.

00:36:34 Fleetwood

So that's one thing I'd say.

00:36:38 Fleetwood

I'd also say that Orphic him to Mercury is something that I've used to great success. I mean, all the orphan chems are amazing, yeah.

00:36:48 Speaker 2

But.

00:36:49 Fleetwood

I think that's.

00:36:51 Speaker 2

I.

00:36:52 Fleetwood

I don't have more than that because I haven't needed more than.

00:36:54 Merrily

That yeah, yeah.

00:36:57 Fleetwood

It's just such an effective tool to have. I did write down some correspondences though. If you want me to go through those for Mercury. Yeah. So colors you've got.

00:37:05 Merrily

Sure. Yeah.

00:37:10 Fleetwood

Yellow. Silver. Gray.

00:37:14 Fleetwood

For symbols, the caduceus, that's one that's really important.

00:37:22 Fleetwood

The staff of the snakes twined around it. That's like the mercury symbol. That and the wing and helmet and sandals.

00:37:35 Fleetwood

The herbs that are really good with mercury or lavender, peppermint, fennel and caraway.

00:37:43 Fleetwood

The last two I haven't used personally, but lavender and Peppermint I will personally attest to are really good with mercury.

00:37:54 Fleetwood

Crystals. Again, I haven't worked with these, but this is I wanted to look up some stuff for the.

00:38:00 Merrily

Yeah.

00:38:02 Fleetwood

Podcast and I was able to find.

00:38:06 Fleetwood

Recommendations for citrine clear quartz.

00:38:10 Fleetwood

I gate and.

00:38:14 Fleetwood

I can rebound. Henry highlight. Oh, how light nice.

00:38:18 Fleetwood

Yeah, the one I'm not as familiar with those crystals, but clear quartz definitely makes a lot of sense just because it's so neutral and can kind of hold any sort of energy that you put into it.

00:38:29

Mm-hmm.

00:38:34 Fleetwood

That makes me think of mercury a lot, yeah.

00:38:39 Fleetwood

And lastly, just the magician tarot card.

00:38:44 Fleetwood

Is super mercurial. If you want to know a lot about Mercury, you learn a lot about the magician card because it's the same kind of.

00:38:54 Fleetwood

Sauce energy.

00:38:58 Merrily

Yeah.

00:38:59 Merrily

I think that's a good.

00:39:00 Merrily

Yeah, they're really good places to start.

00:39:04 Merrily

Yeah, I personally I think I've used dill quite a bit with Mercury and Hermes.

00:39:09 Speaker 2

Mm-hmm.

00:39:12 Merrily

Ah.

00:39:13 Merrily

I think he tends to like it.

00:39:15 Merrily

And then I'll use like candy because I think of like, yeah, like, somebody being kind of hyper and a lot of energy. So I'm like, I tend to give some candy.

00:39:18 Fleetwood

Yes.

00:39:25 Merrily

UM on Wednesdays.

00:39:28 Merrily

But yeah, and then I'm thinking about because I I was, you know I mentioned and I that I have this upcoming trip and I'm like.

00:39:36 Merrily

I'm trying to dot all my like print, making sure I have copies of all my documentation because I'm going to Australia and New Zealand so I want to make sure.

00:39:44 Merrily

I have everything.

00:39:45 Fleetwood

Yeah, definitely.

00:39:46 Merrily

And then I have. I'm going to be wearing. I have like, a an Ibis necklace, the representing towels. And then I also have like, a mercury dime.

00:39:57 Merrily

I'm like, I'm going to have a.

00:39:59 Fleetwood

Can I tell you what I immediately thought of? Yes. With that trip, there's a.

00:40:02 Merrily

Please.

00:40:04 Speaker 2

The.

00:40:05 Fleetwood

Bird in New Zealand, I forget the name of it, but it's renowned for stealing things that are valuable and they're known for taking travelers passports.

00:40:12

Oh.

00:40:17

Oh my gosh.

00:40:18 Merrily

Oh, that's hilarious. Well, and that, that's good to know.

00:40:20 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:40:22 Speaker 2

Yeah, keep it, keep it close.

00:40:24 Merrily

Oh, yes. Oh, we definitely keep you close. Uh, that's a good point.

00:40:29 Fleetwood

Yeah, apparently they'll RIP out like the the rubber seal around car windows. And like, they're very destructive and stuff like that.

00:40:39 Merrily

I have to look at this bird because we are we are renting a car.

00:40:45 Merrily

Ohh gosh, trying to think what else have I done? I'll probably do like because the Wednesday before I leave I'll probably do something you know be like.

00:40:58 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:41:01 Fleetwood

Well and.

00:41:03 Fleetwood

Just as a tip and related to that.

00:41:07 Merrily

Hmm.

00:41:08 Fleetwood

There are so many mercurial spirits out there.

00:41:14 Fleetwood

That are separate from mercury itself, so to speak, but I feel like mercury almost more than anyone, has just this legion of little errand keepers. And it's not.

00:41:18 Merrily

MHM.

00:41:33 Fleetwood

Unwise to maybe ask for, especially during the retrograde period for a mercurial spirit to watch over you specifically.

00:41:43 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:41:45

I love this.

00:41:46 Fleetwood

That you can leave it, leave it offerings and you know, kind of make a little packed or.

00:41:51 Fleetwood

Bond with it that.

00:41:54 Fleetwood

To see you through your trip safely and like I always like when I do stuff like that to make an offering at the start, but also make a promise for an offering once it's delivered.

00:42:07 Fleetwood

So to speak, you're like when you get back from your trip that following Wednesday as well do something, but to like put that into the into the petition that you promised to do that, as I have found, that's pretty effective.

00:42:22 Merrily

Oh.

00:42:22 Fleetwood

When coercing spirits like that.

00:42:25 Merrily

Yes. Oh, I love. I love that tip. I'm definitely going to do that because I see, like, we live in the Pacific Northwest, we have crows everywhere. I think most people here in Seattle love the crows like they really dig them, so we're no exception necessarily, but.

00:42:40 Fleetwood

MMM.

00:42:43 Merrily

I do see them as like very mercurial creatures because they.

00:42:48 Merrily

Communicate like because we pay attention to them so often, like they definitely communicate with each other. We've kind of like understood sort of what different calls are we give them peanuts, you know. So I do see them as very mercurial. So that I think it's the crow that's going to be my.

00:43:04 Merrily

My ritual that you pointed out because I love it so much, so I'm definitely going to do that.

00:43:05 Fleetwood

Yeah.

00:43:10 Fleetwood

Perfect. Yeah.

00:43:12 Merrily

I'm not.

00:43:13 Merrily

Well, let's see. We're kind of kind of nearing the end. It's our kind of quick, very mercury, Hermes sort of betting on Mercury retrograde.

00:43:20 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:43:22 Fleetwood

Yeah.

00:43:23 Merrily

But was there anything else that you wanted to mention about?

00:43:25

Sure.

00:43:27 Merrily

Well, either mercury or.

00:43:29 Merrily

Retrograde.

00:43:33 Fleetwood

I would say Mercury's kryptonite is procrastination.

00:43:41 Fleetwood

Like maybe that's what if there's a theme for.

00:43:46 Fleetwood

The difference in mercury during the retrograde versus not.

00:43:51 Fleetwood

It's like the mail carrier that gets to the end of the block and finds something from the top of the block still in the bag. These little gotta retrace his steps to go all the way back and then back down the block again.

00:44:03 Speaker 2

Hmm.

00:44:07 Fleetwood

It is energy that normally wants things to be taken care of right as soon as they can be, but during the retrograde it is a time when you can maybe get away with a little bit of procrastination as much as you want to have your stuff taken care of leading up to it.

00:44:26 Fleetwood

It is in the air, so to speak.

00:44:31 Fleetwood

And I don't want to say procrastinate away, but it is.

00:44:37 Fleetwood

I've found you can get away with it a little bit easier when everything else is a little bit.

00:44:41 Fleetwood

More.

00:44:41 Fleetwood

Chaotic. So that's one upside to a mercury retrograde. I wanted to throw in there.

00:44:42 Merrily

Hmm.

00:44:47 Merrily

I love it. Yeah. As somebody who kind of procrastinates, I kind of like the permission to do that.

00:44:55 Merrily

So that's crazy.

00:44:56 Fleetwood

Well, especially when you're on a trip. I mean, what?

00:44:58 Fleetwood

Is the trip but.

00:45:00 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:45:01 Merrily

Kind of procrastinate in a lot of ways, but we're pretty much zooming through, but we'll we're going to make it.

00:45:08 Merrily

I I put in definite relaxation points, yeah.

00:45:14 Fleetwood

That's important.

00:45:15 Merrily

Yes. Oh, wow. Yeah. Thanks, Fleetwood. I'm so happy that you wanted to do and talk about Mercury retrograde. So this is really cool.

00:45:24 Merrily

Yeah. Did you have any any upcoming projects or things that you wanted to let the audience know about?

00:45:31 Fleetwood

No, not really. This is the biggest thing I had upcoming was just coming on here and talking with you. I've still got my tarot store open at fiverr.com slash.

00:45:41 Merrily

Oh cool.

00:45:43 Fleetwood

3 fish tarot that I recommend anybody interested in reading stop by. But aside from that, I've had a few personal service or related projects going on that I've been working on.

00:45:58 Speaker 2

OK.

00:46:00 Fleetwood

Yeah, aside from that, just hitting the daily grind, doing the day job routine.

00:46:07 Merrily

Yes, same here. Yeah, definitely. Everyone. Check out fleetwoods at Treefish tarot as well as, like we did in our first.

00:46:19 Merrily

That was about the Charo, so definitely want to listen to.

00:46:22 Merrily

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You you have a lot of really good, cool insights on tarot that I really loved, so it's good. One cool.

00:46:32 Merrily

Yeah. So finally, I know you previously left us some words with him. Do you have any new wisdom that you would like to share?

00:46:41 Fleetwood

I kind of did, but I think the theme for me recently has just been learning to love myself a little bit more than I had recently, so I would just want to share that with everyone else.

00:46:54 Fleetwood

Time, especially during the mercury retrograde, be kind to yourself. Take care of yourself and you know if there's something you've been waiting on, don't wait. No, no time like the present to do the things that make you feel good and proud of yourself.

00:46:59 Merrily

Hmm.

00:47:14 Merrily

I like that.

00:47:14 Merrily

Yeah. Well, well, thank you so much, Fleetwood. This is great.

00:47:19 Fleetwood

Yeah.

00:47:24 Merrily

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