EPISODE 52 - Joy Baker

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🌟 Welcome to Episode 52 of Casual Temple! In this transformative episode we welcome JOY BAKER, an intuitive energy worker and transformational guide whose inspiring journey highlights the power of resilience, self-discovery, and divine alignment.  

From overcoming childhood challenges of abuse, bullying, and shyness, to finding solace and wisdom through the intuitive grace of horses, Joy takes us on a journey of profound healing and personal empowerment. Together, we explore:  

• Letting go of limiting beliefs and embracing your divine power  

• The alchemy of moving from a 3D fear-based world into the expansive, love-filled 5D consciousness  

• How to create an abundant money story and align with the flow of prosperity  

• Techniques like Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) to navigate stuck energy and emotional blocks  

• Finding your inner strength amidst chaos and awakening  


Joy’s insights and practical tools inspire us to honor our experiences, heal deeply, and step boldly into our true, radiant selves. This episode is a soulful guide for anyone seeking transformation, abundance, and authentic living.  


🎧 Listen now and join us in this sacred space of exploration and growth!

BOOK NOTES

Messages from Spirit by Joy Baker

The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield

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00:00:06 Merrily

Welcome to Casual Temple podcast episode 52, and I'm your host, Merrily Duffy at Casual Temple. Our mission is to discover our connection to the unseen world of spirit and how that empowers us to know our true selves. Supporting casual temple is easy. Just give us a like.

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00:00:35 Merrily

Joy Baker is an intuitive energy worker and transformational guide. Joining us to share her fascinating story and deep insights born from a lifetime of challenges, including childhood struggles with bullying, abuse and profound shyness, joy found her sanctuary through the intuitive wisdom of horses. Joyce work invites us to explore the subtle energies that connect and guide us to transcend.

00:00:54 Merrily

Limiting beliefs.

00:00:56 Merrily

Whether you're curious about creating an abundant money story or awakening to the possibilities of a 5D consciousness, or simply finding solace and strength amidst the chaos of life, joy offers profound perspectives and actionable.

00:01:07 Merrily

To prepare to be uplifted as we welcome Joy Baker to the temple, stay tuned to the Casual Temple podcast where we occupy the space between worlds.

00:01:19 Merrily

Welcome to Casual temple today. We're so excited to have Joy Baker with us. Joy is a skilled, intuitive energy worker and transformational guide who helps people overcome obstacles and achieve their personal growth goals.

00:01:33 Merrily

After facing years of abuse and bullying in her childhood, joy found solace and connecting through her work with horses, which she set, which set the foundation for her own journey of self discovery. Now she's here to share her story and insights into embracing vulnerability, letting go of limiting beliefs and taking the big leap in your awesome awareness.

00:01:53 Merrily

Bernie Joy, I'm so happy to have you here on the capital temple.

00:01:57 Joy

Thank you for having me on your show, Merrily.

00:01:59 Merrily

Yes, thank you so much.

00:02:01 Joy

Good to be here.

00:02:02 Merrily

Yeah. Ohh yeah. I'm so excited to to chat with you cause you do sort of really interesting things around your energy work and and abundance and things which I do think everybody needs more abundance in mind and that mindset in their life. So yeah, I'm really excited to chat with you. So we usually start.

00:02:22 Merrily

Wherever the beginning is for you and you know what was there, what was the pivotal moment in your life that got you started on where?

00:02:29 Merrily

Through today.

00:02:30 Joy

OK, well, I like a. Yeah, like you said there I was working with horses. I'd spent my whole life with horses and showed horses for 10 years, trained and exercised race horses for 15 years. So my life was was horses, all the people I knew were horses. I breathe, talked, slapped horses, read before I got a horse read.

00:02:50 Joy

Every book there was in the library on horses, so it was a little bit horse crazy.

00:02:55 Joy

And but I started to realize that, you know, there had to be more to life. It's not that I wanted to leave the horses. It's more that the lifestyle and the racetrack was changing. It was becoming more business and family oriented. And, you know, becoming really stressful and. And so I.

00:03:15 Joy

Not you. Somebody on the racetrack who introduced me to. Well, you just started talking about.

00:03:20 Joy

Self help and the power of the mind and that. So I started to get you know, started to read books and such. I went to the Tony or I did the Tony Robbins fire walk in Suchy 30 years ago spring 1995 so hard to believe it's that long ago and it was really my first workshop and before I went there.

00:03:41 Joy

Remember talking to a friend and saying, oh, I'm not going to walk on fire. I I just want to go and see, you know what it's all about. And. And it was a three day workshop. Well, sure enough, I got there. And once he started setting us up to walk on fire, I got so pumped and and, you know, it's all visualized visualization beforehand and and then when we actually walked on fire.

00:04:03 Joy

It was cool Moss, cool Moss. We were all chanting cool Moss. So the mind wasn't thinking. I'm walking on fire. It was cool.

00:04:10 Joy

Months and that at that time I was still in the race track. I left about six months later, I guess. So. I also left an 8 year relationship at the same time, so that was the real, you know, I had several like, I think many of us on this path. We've had several really pivotal moments. That was definitely one because I'd spent my whole life with the horses up till that time.

00:04:32 Joy

Eight-year relationship all the people I knew were horse people, you know, they were on the race track. I didn't have any friends or acquaintances even out of that. And I just left everything because.

00:04:44 Joy

I just I it was changing on the race track. The relationship was over and so I just said there's got to be more not knowing. No idea what I was going to do. It's just a leap of faith and and no idea what the next 30 years going to be like, that's for sure. And so then I.

00:05:05 Joy

I started well, then I started reading books about the power of the mind, and that workshop kept me going for, I would say, a good year and a half, just it. It gave me the.

00:05:16 Joy

The the strength to when I didn't want to keep going. You know that just kept me kept me going. And by then I joined the network marketing companies. So I was starting to get to know a few non force people which is a big thing for me and I was reading books about the power of the mind and such. And then when I read this.

00:05:37 Joy

Question prophecy that was really my first introduction to energy work and how energy fields. You know, we interact like we connect through energy with each other was a whole. It was a new concept.

00:05:48 Joy

Me, but that was. I was hooked. It was like every it was like my life. My universe started to make sense. We are connected and it's through energy. And then, you know, it's. I had a session with my therapist and I told him about this book.

00:06:04 Joy

And.

00:06:04 Joy

He was he was, you know, way ahead of his time. And this was, you know, almost 30 years ago. So he started teaching me about.

00:06:11 Joy

Doctors. And then I, you know, I got fascinated with that and to all kinds of energy programs and and such.

00:06:20

And.

00:06:21 Joy

And, you know, repressed memories of abuse came up. You know, there was a bowling growing up. I had epilepsy and a speech impediment. So I worked with had to work, work with a speech therapist for a while and you know. So yeah, at school you know you fall down and go unconscious or have a like grand Mal seizure and and talk funny on top of that.

00:06:41 Joy

A lot of bowling, so yeah, it became really just really, really shy. That's been my biggest journey.

00:06:43 Merrily

Oh yeah.

00:06:50 Joy

Cause learning how to talk to people like horses. I was great, but people if you didn't have a horse or know about horses, I just had no idea. It was literally another species and and I started out with just saying hi to people and then how are you? And good morning.

00:07:11 Joy

And then it just went from there. And so yeah, it's been an interesting journey. If I had to sum up my whole 30 year journey in one phrase, it would be about taking my power back.

00:07:23

Hmm.

00:07:23 Joy

But divine power not, you know, understanding them between patriarchal power and divine power, and taking my, you know, God-given power back. That's how I'd sum up.

00:07:33 Merrily

My journey. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many things there I did. Like you working with horses, you know?

00:07:40 Merrily

A lot of.

00:07:41 Merrily

At.

00:07:41 Merrily

Least from my understanding, a lot of little girls.

00:07:44 Merrily

Greens is to like work with horses and like, just be so involved with them. So it's like amazing that you got to do that and, you know, got really deep with working with them. And I think most people have experienced hopefully, how intuitive and emotionally intelligent horses are.

00:08:01 Merrily

And so that totally makes sense that, you know, with the work you're doing now that you know why it attracted you, why you're great at it. You know, all these things. So it's so cool that you got to so part of your path was through through horses. It's so great.

00:08:16 Joy

Yeah. When I was, when I was with the horses, I I didn't know anything about this. I was at sheep. I used to be very shut down. I completely shut down. I felt nothing like I was just numb.

00:08:28 Joy

And in fact, the first time I had a coaching session, the coach asked me what I would like to feel and I had no idea.

00:08:35 Joy

It was like, what are what?

00:08:37 Joy

Our what our feeling.

00:08:40 Joy

She had she had. She had to bring out a a piece of paper with all these lists of, like, positive emotions. And I remember I pointed out.

00:08:48 Joy

Happiness. I don't, she said. Pick out three and her happiness was one of them, but I didn't. I didn't. I honestly didn't know.

00:08:55 Joy

I I was just numbed out because of all the bowling and abuse that was going on at home and such. I just I just shut down. It was the way I survived like many and you know, we all developed coping strategies when we're kids and mine was going numb and that that was something I really had to learn along the path. If I started to kind of go numb and disassociate.

00:09:18 Joy

Then at first I didn't realize it, but now I know that's a sign that I'm blocking something or fear is overtaking me or I'm trying to, you know, block myself. And so I'll do something to release the awareness is, you know that that alone can release the the numbness often.

00:09:23

Hmm.

00:09:36 Merrily

Yeah, exactly. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

00:09:38 Merrily

Especially like the shyness piece, like, I totally resonate with that. I'm. I'm. I personally feel like I'm better one-on-one with people like get me in front of a group.

00:09:47 Merrily

And I just.

00:09:47 Merrily

Like you know.

00:09:49 Merrily

Like you know, unless I'm very comfortable or know everybody.

00:09:53 Merrily

Yeah. And then just, yeah, having to go through just all the trauma as a young person and you know your coping mechanisms, which help in a lot of ways, right. And then but as you get older, they don't work anymore. And so they have to learn new ones. Yeah. Or new ways of managing it.

00:10:05 Joy

Exactly, yeah.

00:10:11 Merrily

That's so fascinating. And then, Tony Robbins. Yeah, he has such, like, a great intro for people of, like, that power of the mind, like, visualizing that's not fire. That's Moss. You're gonna be fine or whatever. And how our minds psych us up. Like you were saying, like, I'm not gonna walk that fire. Are you crazy?

00:10:28 Merrily

Like how our mind just like, builds these stories even before we even start something. Right. So, yeah, So what a cool experience.

00:10:33

Hmm.

00:10:38 Joy

Yeah, that's a good point. You made there, merrily. How we even think of doing something or taking an action, whether it's starting a business or getting another job or asking for a raise or looking for a partner and you know, anything like that or traveling and the mind will come up and, you know, say, you know, that unconscious conditioning.

00:10:58 Joy

The conditioning we receive as kids.

00:11:00 Joy

And say all the reasons why we can't do it. One of the things that has really helped me on this path is a very simple phrase. I say like a mantra. What if it's possible? Because so often we'll come up. I'd love to do that. But you know, everything cancels it out. We come up with the, you know, all these excuses or the unconscious conditioning.

00:11:20 Joy

95% of who we are is our unconscious conditioning. Well, those limiting beliefs, they loop in the mind. They just keep like a tape player. They just keep playing over and over again. We're not even aware.

00:11:30 Joy

Through them. But when you say, what if it's possible over and over again? What if bypasses that resistance so the resistance doesn't start up, and then it is something greater and saying possible over and over again opens up your energy field within you and your energy field, and you start to allow like new ideas.

00:11:50 Joy

Oh man, I've had clients say to me, why didn't I think of that before? Because you didn't even think it was possible. Well, once you start thinking it's possible and the mind will eventually shift. And I've I've experienced this.

00:12:02 Joy

I'm going. What if it's possible? What if it's possible and all of a sudden my mind goes it's possible, and then I'm repeating it's possible over and over again, and then I'll go ohh my mind just aligned with. It's possible it. Yeah. So that that does really help.

00:12:17 Merrily

Oh gosh, yeah. And kind of the thing about, you know, being a shy person and then, you know, you did eventually have people, you know.

00:12:26

So.

00:12:27 Merrily

Give you different ideas and that's the other thing. If you're a shy person and you're not reaching out to others, you're just with you and those patterns that you've built, right? But if somebody else outside of you is like, hey, but what about this? And then it can change your mind. You know, so one of the benefits of having, you know, reaching out a little bit to other people.

00:12:47 Merrily

Absolutely. Yeah. So it's really cool. Did you have any sort of support or teachers? It sounds like, you know, Tony Robbins was one, maybe in your therapist, do you have any specific folks that helped you on?

00:13:01 Joy

Uhm.

00:13:03 Joy

Not support in that way. But yeah, I had the 1st 15 years I was on this path. My mentor was, you know, mentor therapist. He did, you know, five day workshops and such. And he was way ahead of his time. And I followed him off and on. Not the whole 15 years, but off and on. And I kept going back to him because the guy was brilliant.

00:13:23 Joy

And way ahead of his time and very.

00:13:28 Joy

A very powerful, powerful energy like he was. He was just like this. He was like this big powerful energy field, but very compassionate. And so yeah, that was I called my father of higher consciousness.

00:13:44 Joy

And because he was, he really introduced me to all this. I've just been on the path. Maybe about a year, maybe two. Kind of dabbling in it when I met him and started working with him. And actually, after the first three I had three sessions with him, and after the third one I went.

00:14:02 Joy

Oh, this is going to be a lot tougher than I realized, you know, like, what am I getting myself into? So I actually did a pros and cons list and said, you know, why would I want to keep moving forward knowing, you know, getting a glimpse of to how difficult this is going to be? And if I don't, what's my life going to be like?

00:14:02 Merrily

All.

00:14:22 Joy

And I am so grateful. Thank you, universe that I stayed on this path. You know, it's and did the you know, the intense deep work because I see people that.

00:14:35 Joy

You know, having gotten on the path or it has scared them so much, they step a toe into it. Once you're on the path, you're on it. But if you just kind of touch it, then it's you might kind of shy away from it. But I mean it's, I know, like, I would have health issues if I hadn't gotten on this path.

00:14:55 Joy

I just know that could be very arithmetic and such. Yeah. So I am so grateful. Thank you, universe.

00:15:03 Merrily

Oh gosh, yeah. Thank you to the universe. And then your teacher guide. And yeah, it's interesting. You mentioned about the energy of your teacher mentor.

00:15:12 Merrily

There, because I do think that there is like an energy to certain types of teachers and and people and you know. And so I think that's fascinating that you were able to kind of sense that, you know and and so kind of moving into your working with energy. So how did that start for you?

00:15:32 Joy

Well, the books question, prophecy and then you know my mentor. Tell me about chakras and then I actually, you know, took a a weekend chakra program from somebody and.

00:15:38 Merrily

The.

00:15:45 Joy

I just. I started taking all kinds of. I've gone through two bankruptcies, so I never had much money like after I left the horses, they were all survival jobs. Once I I I wrote down a vision really early on, so it was almost 30 years ago. In fact, it was June 1995. I wrote down a vision.

00:16:04 Joy

Of.

00:16:06 Joy

Wanting to, you know, work with people as a, as a coach. And I mean that was 30 years ago. I didn't know what I was getting into, but I well, at first time I'd heard of a vision. I was at a workshop. And I'm like, oh, you have to write down your vision. So I just did what they said and wrote this down and but then it took me 20 years of just doing inner work on myself. And I didn't know it.

00:16:28 Joy

Was going to but.

00:16:29 Joy

I didn't believe in myself. You know the worthlessness and not deserving and all that. So I had to start believing in myself and valuing myself before I could launch, you know, launch this full time.

00:16:40 Joy

And but in the meantime, because I knew this is where my heart and passion was, I just had survival jobs. And I call them looking back, not at the time. I didn't call them survival jobs, but, and I I got into telemarketing. I actually did that because I went, OK, I'm terrified of people. And I'm terrified of talking.

00:17:00 Joy

On the phone and I didn't even get a a phone. My my ex and I got a landline.

00:17:07 Joy

For those that aren't to wear, those are the phones that are hooked into the wall, and I was that was.

00:17:14 Joy

That was what I was 30. I'm 62 now, so I guess it was 30, so it was only 32 years ago that I had before that I use payphones. So I mean, that's how much the world has changed. That was, it was only 32 years ago.

00:17:31 Joy

So I realized I was, you know, terrified of talking, picking up the phone and talking on the phone. So I actually got a job. Telemarketing.

00:17:38 Joy

I started out with first. I was just selling water, just picking up the phone and selling water, and then somebody else offered me a job I could work from home and. And so at first when I started out, there's, I mean, there's a ton of rejection with that. I won't want to be doing it now, that's.

00:17:55 Joy

For sure.

00:17:56 Merrily

Yeah.

00:17:57 Joy

And but I.

00:17:58 Joy

Challenged myself, that was how I, you know, got through the 1st part, did really well and yes and it was challenging myself. Help me bust through that fear. I mean, by the end I was so done with telemarketing, but I never wanted to pick up the phone again.

00:18:18 Joy

And and in fact, unless I'm working with clients, I I don't use my phone much for maybe texting. But yeah, it's been an interesting journey. Actually before I started the telemarketing, I was looking for work and I answered this ad and they still often do it this way thinking it was some kind of office job or data.

00:18:39 Joy

Entry or you know something? I could do. It turned out it was door to door. I was selling door to door. Yeah. And I'm like, do I really want to do this? I mean, these guys in the morning, they got to pump them up. They're just crazy. I'm looking guys going. They're crazy, but it got.

00:18:57 Joy

Like what? Knocking on doors. I mean, I just come from working with the horses. I was so terrified and shy. And I'm like, well, it's a good way to get over my fear. And so I did actually ended up out of about 15-16 people, ended up being one of their top salespeople. So I was there for, you know, three months and then, yeah, I got into the telemarketing.

00:19:07 Merrily

Yeah.

00:19:19 Joy

So I had a lot of survival jobs and but I was kind of a really long answer to your question. It was.

00:19:29 Joy

Because I I never made much money because I would just. It was just me and I knew how to live on very little, so I would just say I'm done with this job. It's killing my soul. I can't be here any longer, so I would quit the job and then I'd have no money. So.

00:19:43 Joy

I'd have to find something else.

00:19:45 Joy

And but because of that, most of what?

00:19:48 Joy

By you know the energy work I took. I either volunteered at programs or I learned just read through books or you used to get books out of the library.

00:19:59 Joy

And read tons of books or online, you know, 20-30 years ago there wasn't as much online but like EFT, emotional freedom technique, I said to myself, I want to find some kind of energy tool that will support me and being able to get through anything that comes up. And so I typed that.

00:20:19 Joy

Into the computer, and it was, I think it was early 2000, so probably around 2324 years ago.

00:20:27 Joy

You know, I just typed that into the computer and I came up with EFT. Never heard of it, but I started studying and I got all the tapes. You know, the CD's and back then and and studied it and and used that on myself extensively for hours at a time. It turns the work around. Money like I just.

00:20:47 Joy

Yeah, I've done tons and tons of workshops and tapping and and all kinds of stuff around money and, but that's one of the tools that.

00:20:57 Joy

So for anybody who's saying, and especially with everything that's out there now, all the speakers and the tools, if anybody is, you know, stuck financially and feeling like they need support. I mean, it's great to work with somebody and I highly encourage that. But there's also so much support.

00:21:17 Joy

Out there that you know, a lot of it, you don't have to pay for. I mean, it's just, it's amazing the way things have changed in the past 20-30 years, you know, with access to personal growth and such. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Can you imagine? Yeah. Yeah. You definitely have a really good perspective on that for sure. Starting with, like.

00:21:36

Yeah.

00:21:37 Merrily

Like CD's and, you know, it's amazing. Ohh, I love that you mentioned about working sales cause oddly enough I dipped my toes in sales because I had I worked and one of my jobs was business development.

00:21:37

Yeah.

00:21:52 Merrily

And my boss John, he called the Wizard of this, but John, he was a very good salesman and he was like, passionate about sales which, you know, most people would think you're nuts for about sales. Cause they think everybody's a swindler. You know, that kind of thing.

00:22:08 Merrily

But he encouraged me to try it right and he gave me a lot of support. I ultimately found it wasn't for me, but what I did learn was there is that sort of like the Tony Robbins thing, right. You're sucking yourself up to just even talk to somebody, right. And then also getting comfortable with, not with the rejection. Right. When they they say no.

00:22:28 Merrily

And, you know, learning with like that doesn't mean you're going to die. You're going to be OK. Yeah. So it's fascinating. Is such a shy person that you, you went and did that and like, challenged yourself even, like, not only telemarketing, but door to door like, Oh my gosh. Like, I can't even.

00:22:49 Merrily

That is like really mind blowing to me.

00:22:51 Joy

That you, you.

00:22:52 Merrily

You did that, so that's really cool. It was.

00:22:56 Joy

Actually Ohh, share the first time I went out with somebody. Usually they have 4 or 5-6 days training but for whatever reason I took to it right away so he took me on the afternoon and then in the evening then we we you know we'd have an hour break and then the evening he says he's like OK you go on your own and we're at this remember it was kind of dark.

00:23:16 Joy

It was raining a little bit and I'm absolutely terrified. And it was like townhouse complex, you know, row houses. And so I'm knocking on them and I'm just terrified it's it.

00:23:21 Merrily

Life happens.

00:23:25 Merrily

Please you buy this?

00:23:28 Joy

For about 5 or 6 houses. I'm like this isn't working.

00:23:31 Joy

So I remember going behind the hedge, you know, row of bushes and saying, OK, what do I have to do? How do I have to look at this? So I'm not so terrified. And people are receptive and I thought.

00:23:42 Joy

What if I?

00:23:43 Joy

Walked up there and I was so bright and positive that let's say they come home from a, you know, bad day.

00:23:51 Joy

Off day at work and they start arguing with their spouse and the kids are yelling and such. Having a bad day and I walk up and even if they don't buy anything, after talking to me for 30 seconds or two minutes, you know they close the door in their.

00:24:04 Joy

Happy again and it's a happy household and I started, you know, I psyched myself up that way. I ended up being, yeah, I I sold all. I forget how many I sold that evening and the the guy who was training me just couldn't believe it. And but that attitude it was and I used that attitude. In fact the 20 years I had between the horses and doing this full time.

00:24:27 Joy

I you know, there's several jobs, a lot of them were in sales and I always ended up being one of the, you know, the top salespersons there, whether it's a bigger company or just a startup and such because that was my attitude with sales was what if, whether or not so it wasn't so much about buying something. I know it's.

00:24:48 Joy

Used to be, you know, they say. Find the what is it? Find the find the need and show them how you can fulfill it. And you know there is some element to that, but it's about making a difference. If somebody doesn't need it, they don't need it.

00:25:06 Joy

And it's I I use that and I still you know that that kind of outlook supported me when I started this like it's whether like a product or service resonates with different people and but if you're in integrity and authentic.

00:25:27 Joy

And you come across from that, people are going to resonate with your energy.

00:25:31 Joy

And that philosophy, you know, so anybody who's really, if you're really scared of doing something or speaking or picking up the phone and talking to somebody, what if your energy, your way of being your optimism can support that person and having a great day.

00:25:51

Hmm.

00:25:52 Joy

Yeah. And what what, what if so if?

00:25:54 Joy

There and that and that's how I, you know, got ended up being like one of the top salespeople wherever I'd go was just that kind of attitude. Or like, when I would get an elderly person on the phone. And and I didn't picking up the phone over and over again, gets a little tiring. And some of them I had some people at the end.

00:26:15 Joy

I've talked to some people for 30 minutes and then at the end it's like, Oh my gosh, you made my day. I haven't talked to anybody in, you know, days or and such.

00:26:24 Joy

And that's what it was all about.

00:26:27 Merrily

Oh wow. Yeah, that's such a yeah. Again, it really good perspective. And I think listening, you mentioned all those things. I think my my boss, John like he definitely used a lot of those things, not used them, but he incorporated it in how he he operated as a salesperson.

00:26:45 Merrily

And now I'm remembering that he also was big on.

00:26:48 Merrily

Tony Robbins.

00:26:50

That's also.

00:26:50

OK.

00:26:52 Merrily

Wow. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that and walking us through sort of your experience with that. And definitely we definitely want to talk about, like creating abundance and money and new Earth and all this. But there was something you had mentioned in. So your notes to me about moving from.

00:27:12 Merrily

3D to 5D I know there's like a lot of talk about what that means, but what is your perspective on that and what does it mean for for us humans?

00:27:20 Joy

OK so.

00:27:22 Joy

So first of all, you want to get a good understanding of like the 3rd dimension 3D and the 5D. So 4D before is that's the portal between the two. That's when you're doing your inner work in your processing. And so when you're, you know, as you're processing, doing your inner work, you're moving towards. I caught the new Earth or the 5th dimension.

00:27:42 Joy

You know the higher dimensions, so the third dimension and it's a space. It's an energetic space, and that's where most people live. That's where our parents, our ancestors and then born.

00:27:53 Joy

It's fear based, and so anything that aligns with fear, so fear that that's and there's been a really, you know, we've been marketed a really big fear narrative globally for the past, well, several decades, but especially in the past five years. So you can you know really that fear is in the collective and but fear guilt.

00:28:05

Yeah.

00:28:13 Joy

Shame, anger, disappointment, feeling worthless. Not enough. That's one of the core beliefs. You know the limiting beliefs in the third dimension. We all know that dimension. We've all.

00:28:24 Joy

Looked at and so the 4th dimension, that's where you're doing your inner work. The 5th Dimension that is, so the the core emotion there is divine love and anything that aligns with that. So happiness, gratitude, appreciation of fun. Laughter, inspiration, creative.

00:28:44 Joy

Activity that's the 5th dimension. That's where you're in creation. So when you're on this path, what you want to do is. So it's like like a pilot. A pilot knows where they start. They put the coordinates in for where they're going. They're on autopilot 97% of the time. Like they're they're on autopilot of me, but they're off course.

00:29:04 Joy

97% of the time.

00:29:06 Joy

And I actually used that analogy with a client who was working with the first time, not knowing she was a pilot, like an international pilot. She's like, that's exactly it. We just that we know where we're starting from. So, you know, you're starting from the dimension of, like, a fear based dimension that third third.

00:29:26 Joy

3D third dimension so you know you're starting place. You know where you want to go to feeling happy, joyful, uplifted, inspired, creative and.

00:29:36 Joy

Merged and so now everything you're doing in between there, that's the 4th dimension and what many people doing what I did for you know, most of my until recently was you do your inner work and it feels good. It feels so good and you feel light and not feel so much better.

00:29:57 Joy

But then we stop now.

00:30:00 Joy

In moments of stress, we default to our comfort zone, to what's familiar that generally is in that fear based third dimension. So now something happens. You get stressed out automatically, you default to it's you know, what's going to happen. You default to worry, helplessness, powerlessness, anxiety and such. What you want to do, it's like a.

00:30:21 Joy

Muscle memory is when you're doing your inner work and you feel really relaxed and generally you won't go any further. Go a step further.

00:30:29 Joy

And now this is actively creating in that 5th dimension the new work. So you're feeling really good, relaxed, at ease, you know, all the stress and pressure is off you now say you know what? What do I want? What do I really choose? I desire to feel happy, joyful.

00:30:48 Joy

And excited, passionate, creative, inspired, loved, loving, supported.

00:30:55 Joy

And if you're saying, oh, but that's not in my life at all right now, like, I don't have any of that. Remember a time, remember, a time when you felt happy when you felt supported. You felt safe because when you remember that time you're creating that energy within you, you're creating the alignment with that energy. You're feeling safe, supported.

00:31:15 Joy

Inspired creative. The more you do that, it will become like it takes consciously doing it over and over again, but you're creating that that you're creating an energetic form and the newer.

00:31:28 Joy

And well, first it might, it's just it's energy. It creates form. The more you do that and eventually you, you're when let's say you choose happiness, you're feeling really good and you're like, you know what, you know what I really desire in my heart is to feel happy, happy and inspired.

00:31:48 Joy

And but I'm sure not feeling that right now. I feel at ease, but I don't really feel happy and inspired. So remember a time when you have felt happy, we've all, even if they're just brief moments. Remember a time when you felt inspired.

00:32:02 Joy

And just remember that be with that just allow that memory to almost like infuse your energy field and awaken to that.

00:32:13 Joy

And then you know, give thanks. In fact what I would suggest is end it with this or something greater because you know how you want to feel. But when you give that to the universe to source the you know the angels, they're going to give you something much greater than you can possibly.

00:32:28 Joy

Imagine well the next time. Like if you did that every time you're what you're doing is you're building up that energy field within you. You're building up the energy form in the, you know, the higher dimensions, just a matter of time till you magnetize that to you. And the more you focus on, say, something like happiness, feeling safe, feeling inspired.

00:32:50 Joy

You create that energy. You magnetize that to you. What you give energy.

00:32:54 Joy

You too. You eventually get back into your life. Maybe not from the same person. Place event experience, but you will get it back in your life. So if you want to feel if you want to feel more peace, you want to trust more happy or inspired or creative. Abundant focus on that. Like feel that.

00:33:14 Joy

Of focus on that from a place.

00:33:16 Joy

Of.

00:33:17 Joy

You know, the higher energies, higher understanding and knowing that it's possible.

00:33:23 Merrily

Yeah, you articulated it so well. I've heard other people kind of explain 3D to 5D and it hasn't really clicked with me or it just felt really nebulous. But the way you articulated it was like I got it. So it was really good, especially in the realm of sort of energy, right and.

00:33:42 Merrily

You know how we manage that in the current 3D?

00:33:46 Joy

And I never heard that 440 is the actual portal between the two. So yeah, yeah. Portal or tunnel. And it's where you're doing your inner work. So it's. Yeah. But I like I when you take it a step further and you're so you're consciously creating in the newer.

00:34:05 Joy

And I think that's where we're at now is you know more and more we're evolving is sending into that is consciously creating in the newer. So we're Co creators. So remember to take it a step further when you're doing you're in a work and say.

00:34:20 Joy

And if you're not sure, like you have no idea what you want, then look at what you don't want. Start with what you don't want, and then though. OK, well, that's not. I don't want that. Well, this is what I would like. I would. I do want this, like, a lot of people won't even have thought of wanting something. Can you know, scare some or they weren't allowed to want anything.

00:34:40 Joy

So no, you don't stay in want cause want. It's like the, you know, the carrot in front of horse where the horse is hooked up in a cart and can't get the carrot, right? So want is always in front of you. It's like a future thing.

00:34:52 Joy

But once you want once you know what you want, then you can start imagining that feeling that creating that, you know, feeling your that with your heart and creating that in the energetic field and then it becomes a desire and then you start to magnetize yourself to that and that what you're desiring to you.

00:35:13 Joy

And then it's just a matter of time before you actually actualize it into your your reality.

00:35:18 Merrily

Yeah. Ohh yeah, that's a good point. It's just like kind of aligning that vibration. And yeah, it is I think the for me it was the most difficult part was like what do I actually.

00:35:30 Merrily

Because you know, on one hand you feel like you don't have any choices, but on the other hand, you have so many choices and that's kind.

00:35:36 Merrily

Of the same thing like when you.

00:35:38 Joy

That's. Yeah, that's a really good point, merrily. It's like you feel like you don't have. It's like good money. You can feel like I don't have any choices. I just have just enough money to pay, you know, my my bills and expenses and maybe a little more. But then if you get a lot of money, you've got so many choices that you know, both of them can be.

00:35:58 Joy

Confusing and and so like. Yeah, learning about money and understanding money is really important as well, yeah.

00:36:05 Merrily

Uh. And so with that, like, there's something that you wrote about about creating an abundant money story. So what does that versus what we're currently doing or what most people currently do?

00:36:23 Joy

Well, that's kind of like creating in the new Earth. You know, the new Earth, the 5th dimension. That's that's abundant, you know, source is abundance is about.

00:36:32 Joy

And it's like source doesn't want for anything. Well, you can live that way as well. So start by desiring, you know, wanting and then desiring how you want to live, you know, do do you want to travel? Do you want to buy a house? What kind of car do you want to live? What kind of clothes do you?

00:36:49 Joy

Want to wear?

00:36:50 Joy

What kind of people do you be want to?

00:36:52 Joy

Be around and associate with.

00:36:53 Joy

You want to be around people who are uplifting, who are supportive, who are encouraging.

00:36:59 Joy

You know, it's A and it's an authentic relationship. You have fun and laugh together. And so you're creating all of you're creating an abundant money story and then see yourself imagine money flowing in.

00:37:16 Joy

And easily and effortlessly. So money is flowing in now. Allow yourself to just imagine putting your hands out and receiving that money. And that's the key. You have to be open to receiving money because it's all around you are worthy of having money.

00:37:35 Merrily

Me.

00:37:36 Joy

You are allowed to have money. Give yourself permission to receive that money, so you start with.

00:37:44 Joy

Start with first of all, knowing how you desire to feel. So you start with your emotions. Happy. Inspire, joyful, laughing, having fun and you know, creative anything like that.

00:37:56 Joy

And then so you're creating that energy form with your feelings, emotions, energy and motion. And then what? What are some physical aspects you want to put in their house or car, new clothes, and what you want to be doing? You wanna go hiking? You wanna go swim with the dolphins? Maybe you want to write a book. So it's you.

00:38:14 Joy

Know you're. So you put the.

00:38:16 Joy

Like the physical aspects in there, sure at first there and in energetic form. But the more you do this, it's just a matter of time.

00:38:24 Joy

And then now allow yourself, unless a person's got a lot of money, start focusing on money and allow yourself to be in that flow of money because money is all around. But if you if.

00:38:38 Joy

One of the questions I'll ask people is how do you talk to money? Do you say you know when you're really pay attention, are you, do you say to money, you know, money. You're never here when I need you. I can never count on you like you're just you're always. You know, I never know when you're going to be here money and that that actually repels money.

00:38:58 Joy

Money is just an energy. It's just energy.

00:39:01 Joy

We decide how we're going to feel about it. We decide the energy we're going to dump on that on that money, or we're going to attract money to us. So how are you talking about money? And what if you appreciated money?

00:39:17 Merrily

Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, that's that's always like a hard thing. Yeah. For people to kind of wrap their brains around, especially when there's, like, you know, all the fear around money and how maybe you grew up without money, you know. And there's a lot of stories that you have, but you get some really good tools.

00:39:36 Merrily

Like the envisioning process and like how you treat money as an energy, you know, if you want to track it, you kind of have to say positive things about it, right, like anything in.

00:39:45 Merrily

This world.

00:39:48 Joy

Yeah, yeah, I had a bit of it. It just came in the other day at you. It was at you while I was sleeping, I was sleeping and half awake and money was coming in. The energy of money. And it was having this. It was like an all night conversation with money. But ultimately, money is just. It's an energy. It's like.

00:39:48 Merrily

That's.

00:40:07 Joy

Think of there's some money on the ground. You know, Bill, $100 Bill or Euro bill or, you know, some money and it's just.

00:40:15 Joy

Sitting there doesn't do anything until somebody picks it up, and now you can pick it up and somebody you know one person will pick it up and they'll go buy drugs or, you know, alcohol or they're, you know, do something, you know, not.

00:40:34 Joy

Good with it.

00:40:35 Joy

And the next person will pick it up and they'll say, oh, this is going to help me, you know, pay my bills or I can use this through self-care or they'll use it to, you know, give to their, give it to their kids, or they'll buy groceries with it. But it's like money doesn't do anything until a person.

00:40:55 Joy

Is attached to.

00:40:55 Joy

It.

00:40:56

Hmm.

00:40:57 Joy

Money is just money. Whether you see it as a physical aspect, just it's just there or you know, however you see money. It's just energy. You decide how that energy is going to flow into your life, or if you're going to struggle for it. Like this is a big.

00:41:15 Joy

This is a big thing because we're we have been.

00:41:19 Joy

You know, controlled and enslaved. And we've been birthed into that, that very limiting treaty consciousness. And one of the ways they keep people enslaved is enslaved is by ensuring that they don't have much money and it doesn't.

00:41:34

But.

00:41:36 Joy

Things are changing in a big, big, big way. Much bigger than we can see in this physical.

00:41:41 Joy

World.

00:41:42 Joy

And you are supposed to be abundant, and the more abundant you are, the more you are connected to.

00:41:50 Joy

To source in that divine space. So give yourself permission to.

00:41:56 Joy

Receive money. Give yourself permission to feel good about money. That's a big one. Give yourself permission to feel good about money. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's so rebellious. I'll say. Really like. Oh, my gosh. But I love. I love that thinking for sure because it is in my own life. I've seen that. What? Not that. I'm perfect.

00:42:16 Merrily

That, like you know, or have totally released myself from that fear. But I do think that, you know, I've gotten a lot more comfortable with money.

00:42:25 Merrily

And one of the things I do do in a similar way, like you know, I still work a day job, I actually really love the job I do. And so every time I get paid, I thank everybody that I work with individually and I bless them and their ancestors and their families. I bless the companies I work for, which seems kind of ridiculous probably to people that I I bless them.

00:42:37

Well.

00:42:44 Joy

That's that's powerful.

00:42:47 Joy

That right there merely what you're saying, that's exactly how you create financial abundance, just what you did there.

00:42:53 Merrily

Yeah, I think, yeah. And I have seen that like I've seen like because I'm so thankful and put that energy out like I've got a lot more comfortable around money, right? It doesn't like scare me so much and you know, and I, you know, I like technology. The people that you know are involved with, you know.

00:43:09 Merrily

Helping me pay my own bills, you know.

00:43:11 Merrily

That kind of thing.

00:43:13 Joy

That's that. That's. I'm so glad you brought that up so that people could hear that, because that's exactly how you create abundance by thanking, like, if you, if you I had a client say if I hate money, can I, you know, bring money into my life.

00:43:29 Joy

I'm like you.

00:43:29 Joy

Know it's like a person. If you're hating on somebody, they're not going to want to be in.

00:43:33 Joy

Your life and it's that's a really good point. What you said there where a lot of people hate their job and can't stand their job and can't wait to get out of there so they can do something different. But if you're hating your job and you're miserable, look at that. Look at that. Energetic, like, like, if you're not appreciating your your paycheck or who you're working with.

00:43:56 Joy

You're in that energy and now you want to go do something and create or build something or write a book or just take time off. Well, you're that energy. It's a, you know, continuum and it's just going to continue that miserable energy, not feeling happy. So start that's a really good place to start creating abundance that.

00:44:16 Joy

That was brilliant. I'm glad you shared that because.

00:44:20 Joy

You're see, when you what you're doing when you do that with your your when you get your paycheck and you're thanking and blessing and appreciating everybody and the job and the company you work for, you're creating an energy field, which you then the next thought behavior, the next interaction you have, you you move forward.

00:44:40 Joy

In that energy, now you're in uplifting energy. So creating, like you said, an abundant money story. You gotta figure it out right there, OK.

00:44:49 Merrily

Thank you. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I have seen the benefit of doing that for sure. So yeah, thank you so much for sharing all the tips and having this conversation. So I do want to get to you. So you do sort of you work with folks and.

00:45:09 Merrily

And it seems like you do sort of like a clearing and sort of like a an energetic reading and maybe around money.

00:45:18 Merrily

Would you like to walk through how you do that so folks can get a taste of how it is to work?

00:45:22 Joy

With you and we can work together. And then if if you want a little bit of a clearing or reading, I can do that. So I I it's nothing specific. It's after you know all the years of inner work and such this evolved and what basically what I'm doing I'm going right.

00:45:23

Sure.

00:45:28 Merrily

Yeah.

00:45:37 Joy

Into a person's unconscious conditioning. Like I said, that's 95% of who we are. Thoughts. Please see motions.

00:45:44 Joy

Patterns and such and all identify and they can just have a general or they can say it's around money or relationships and such will identify wherever my guides take me, usually at some usually what I do is right away, figure out the emotion that's usually comes in right away where they're stuck because emotion.

00:46:04 Joy

Because it's energy in motion, and if it's if it's stuck and stagnant that that will block everything else. And then usually there's like a limiting belief connected with that and.

00:46:16 Joy

Then well, like not enough. Often the belief not always, but I see these two paired up quite often. A shame. So if you're stuck in not enough, whether it's relationships or money or anything else, often you want to go into shame. And I can feel like, you know, in the collective right away, people are going well, shame bad. No, it's.

00:46:36 Joy

Your emotions are you are energy. You're an energy being. I mean, we all know that. Well, your emotions are energy. Your emotions are a part of you. They're trying to get your attention. They want acceptance when you can say so. Let's say you've got the not enough belief, and most of us do in this, you know, 3D conscious.

00:46:56 Joy

And you can just ask yourself if shame is also connected to that and if shame is connected to that, just say you can. I talked to my emotions all the time. You can say, OK, shame I see you. You're trying to get my attention. And you know what shame I accept you. I accept you. I thank you for everything you've taught me. Just like you did with money.

00:47:16 Joy

There. I thank you for everything you've taught me. I thank for you for all the ways you've supported me up until now. But you know what? Shame. It's time to to release you, let you be released so and just so I send you to the light.

00:47:31 Joy

And that's it. And now there's layers to it. You can go deeper and deeper. That will come up again. But you can do that anytime or.

00:47:40 Joy

Keep it really simple if you know like there's something there, and let's say you're feeling stuck, just say to yourself, ask yourself so. This involves trusting yourself. Just say, OK, what emotion is stuck? Let's say shame comes up. Grief, fear, anything like that. Anxiety. Just say, OK there. Let's go with anxiety. OK. Anxiety. I see you.

00:48:01 Joy

I acknowledge you. I accept you and I free.

00:48:04 Joy

To send you to the light, it can be that simple, but it starts with you trusting yourself, you know, trusting what it you can't get it wrong. It's energy, you know, if you name, if you name the energy wrong, the frequency, it's OK. You know your body doesn't care. The energy is moving. And so when you do that, that's how simple it can be.

00:48:27 Joy

So you can, you know, unstuck yourself if you're feeling stuck or just, you know, stuck in step.

00:48:33 Joy

Michael.

00:48:34 Joy

Just ask yourself something like that. What emotion? Or you can say what belief? What? What belief is keeping me stuck right now? Untrusted. That's the key. That's where most people will get get stuck is they don't trust themselves. And they say, well, this came up, but then they go into the mind and go. But you.

00:48:53 Joy

Know and all of them.

00:48:55 Joy

Just trust yourself. Keep it simple. You know the kiss formula. Keep it super simple. I I'm a big believer in that, so.

00:49:04 Joy

Yeah, that's a technique. And now we all need support. We all have like, like a car has the, you know, the blind spots we do as well because we have attachments. You know, we have emotional attachments to our wounds, to our coping strategies, to others, to experiences, and somebody else who isn't emotionally involved. They can come in and take a look at that.

00:49:27 Joy

And but you can do a lot of that work yourself. You're not. So you're not helpless, and you're definitely not powerless. Society. You know, the powers that be will have you think you're you're helpless or powerless, my friend. You are not. You have so much power within you. It's just you when you believe that.

00:49:48 Joy

And you start trusting yourself, man. The power will divine power. I mean, I want to be clear on that divine power. You know that angelic presence within you, that light that will start to really emerge you and shine.

00:50:02 Merrily

Yeah. I mean, I like that you mentioned about the stuck energy is like you just want to get it moving mainly, yeah.

00:50:02 Joy

OK so.

00:50:08 Joy

Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes when you just move that little, you know that little energy, everything starts to unravel. So you would ask me those, they keep going under these long answers when you ask.

00:50:20 Joy

Me these questions.

00:50:22 Joy

And so how do I work so with over the phone with people, but also from a picture? That's that's how I started out doing this full time. Somebody will send me their picture and depending on if it's a longer shorter session, you know whatever issue they want cleared or activated. And I'll just because the energy in a picture.

00:50:42 Joy

A picture shows your your energy and your energy field as well, so I'll go into that picture. We go deep really, really quickly, cause it's just energy. I'm not dealing with any ego or anything like that.

00:50:56 Joy

And we just go right deep into there and uncover what? Yeah, usually it's a core belief and emotion. And then we just start, you know, I called the unraveling process and follow the stream of consciousness until we get to a place where we can activate that persons, whatever that person's higher self is asking for. And that so it's just done.

00:51:16 Joy

From the picture so that one is really convenient people, you know, person doesn't even have to make an appointment. They just send me the picture and whatever they'd like, clear. And then with the phone sessions just we'll kind of like I was saying there we go really deep in an unconscious conditioning.

00:51:35 Joy

Yeah. So that's it's amazing. You know, when you can when whether you're working with somebody else, you do it for yourself and you start to unravel that stuck energy. Like I had one person, and she always comes to me and she.

00:51:35

Oh.

00:51:54 Joy

This did. It was from the picture. It was 30 minutes 2530 minutes. She's all she said is.

00:52:00 Joy

Increased financial abundance, something like that. That was it. So I just did that. I didn't know anything else other than her picture. And I sent her, you know, so to recording MP3, I sent that, sent that to her afterwards. Never heard from her again until, I guess, about a year later. So. So she emailed me back and said I've been looking for a house.

00:52:22 Joy

4/5.

00:52:23 Joy

Years couldn't find anything. It wasn't the right house, couldn't get approved for it. And you know, financially it never worked out after after the clearing, she found the house, she put it off her and closed. She moved into the house, you know, six months later, she was in the house and she'd been looking for five years and she was just.

00:52:43 Joy

Yeah. For whatever reason I've had 3-4 or five people buy houses after having this done, but that's how easy it is when you not easy. I want to. I shouldn't say easy because you know, been on about 30 years, a lot of does work, but when you.

00:53:00 Joy

Release that one stuck energy. It can free everything up.

00:53:06 Merrily

Yeah.

00:53:07 Joy

And yes, if a person is feeling you know, or is broke or just doesn't have the money to work with anybody else, I want you to know the power is within you and you can do this.

00:53:18 Merrily

Yes. Oh, my gosh, yeah, for sure. And I always think that any of these things, it's always about timing, right? Like when you're like, yeah, there was something that needed to get cleared. And then the timing was like 6 months later. Like she was able to buy a house when five years of looking. It didn't happen.

00:53:32

Hmm.

00:53:34 Merrily

So that's always fascinating to me.

00:53:35 Joy

Apps.

00:53:37 Joy

Absolutely. I always tell people, you know, anything that's coming up and you know, from your unconscious conditioning is because you're ready to release that even if you're not aware of it. There's some part of you that's ready to release it. And when you're ready to release it, it will come up to be released.

00:53:55 Merrily

Ah.

00:53:56 Merrily

Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, very powerful. And I like that you are talking about people being very powerful. That's something that's like, very close to my heart because I definitely think, you know, we're told we're taught not to be powerful and that we have to rely on outside sources and situations and systems. And so I like that you promote, like, well, kind of.

00:54:16 Merrily

Powerful. You know we have it within us, absolutely.

00:54:19 Joy

And we're also taught as kids, and it makes sense. I mean, parents, you know, or whoever's looking after you, you have to ask for permission. But we often forget as we become adults, you don't have to ask for permission. You don't have to ask for permission to feel good. You don't have to ask for permission to make a lot of money. You don't have to ask for permission to.

00:54:22 Merrily

Yeah.

00:54:23

Yeah.

00:54:41 Joy

I don't know. Take a day off. Well, I guess you do take a day off work. But you know you can play hookie occasionally as well, but whatever it is, it's this is your life. Once you're an adult, this is your life. You don't have to ask for permission. I find that's a big one. Is. Yeah, we're just so used to asking for permission.

00:54:56

Hmm.

00:55:00 Joy

Those kids that we want to.

00:55:05 Joy

You know, buy a house or travel or or even just feel good about ourselves. But or instead of validating ourselves, we need somebody else to validate us. Well, you can. You can give those gifts to yourself. You can bless yourself in that way. You can feel good about yourself, even without somebody else's permission.

00:55:16

Right.

00:55:27 Joy

So yeah, that can be a big one as well.

00:55:30 Merrily

Oh yeah, it's so true. I do find like I do tend to sort of also work with people doing sort order clearings and stuff. And a lot of it is around permission. And I'm like, I'll give you the permission, but just know you don't have to ask it because. Yeah, exactly what you're saying. But some people need it for some reason.

00:55:43

Yeah.

00:55:46

Yes.

00:55:48 Joy

Yeah, yeah.

00:55:51 Merrily

Well, I'm happy to if you are wanting or willing to facilitate sort of what a clearing process is. I'm happy to be made your Guinea pig and you know, if anybody's listening, they can also get, uh, some help with that. So that would be really great.

00:56:03 Joy

OK. So yeah, we'll just do a brief 1 here. Just do you want anything specific or just kind of a general maybe reading and seeing what comes up?

00:56:12 Merrily

So yeah, I think well, since we've been talking about money, I'm kind of interested in what might be lurking. You know that I am not aware of. So any stories around money would be kind of interesting.

00:56:26 Joy

So so you want to have more money in your life, you'd like to be more be.

00:56:29 Merrily

Yeah, but more abundant. More. Yeah.

00:56:30 Joy

OK. Do you have any that you'd like to share? Is there anything you're working towards that if you don't want to share anything, that's fine, but that would take money?

00:56:40 Merrily

Oh yes, there's probably two things a house, you know, so this is probably not new to you. And then retirement like those two things. And so house and then retirement.

00:56:51

Yeah.

00:56:52 Joy

You look too young to be thinking about.

00:56:55 Merrily

Well, you know, I like to plan ahead. I have a Virgo moon. I like to, like, kind of have.

00:56:59 Merrily

A little bit.

00:57:00 Merrily

Of a plan.

00:57:01 Joy

OK so.

00:57:05 Joy

Let's see.

00:57:08 Joy

Ohh, a little bit of anger came up right away. OK so.

00:57:13 Joy

Yeah, there's anger stuck in your mainly your.

00:57:17 Joy

Sacral chakra. OK, so now and there's some grief there as we go further into the anger. So as I'm speaking, we're sending it to the, like, so anger. But then that's from protecting you from feeling some grief. Oh, yeah. There's some grief there.

00:57:32 Joy

There.

00:57:34 Joy

Sadness. A little more anger coming up. So as I'm speaking, all these are being moved through you. We're sending them to a light when we once we identify and acknowledge something, it's released. And in case so imagine.

00:57:48 Joy

The the House you were able to buy a house. Have you been looking?

00:57:52 Merrily

For houses yet not like seriously, more like kind of.

00:57:55 Joy

More considering it. OK, so imagine you.

00:57:57 Merrily

Yeah.

00:57:59 Joy

Found the the perfect house for you at this time and you're like, OK, so right away as you imagine that. There's almost like, a I felt the little little merrily come up the little kid within you and she's.

00:58:12 Joy

Going.

00:58:14 Joy

Almost like catching her breath going. That's too good to be true. It's too good to be true. So OK, so.

00:58:19 Joy

Any any and all ways and this is for everybody who wants a money clearing any and all ways you stop your prevent yourself, block yourself from really living your dreams cause you tell yourself your unconscious conditioning.

00:58:34 Joy

Is looping and saying it's too good to be true honor and acknowledge that?

00:58:37 Joy

Let's just.

00:58:40 Joy

There you go. Release that on all levels. Mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, cellular throughout all time and space. OK, so there's that grief. So the grief is OK. So the grief is.

00:58:54 Joy

It's a little girl who didn't get her needs met, whether it was, you know, at Christmas, other people getting more stuff or just nobody was really there to hear you to, you know, be there for you. You never really felt heard. And so the grief is that little girl little merrily so little merrily. Yes. We're hearing you now she's like.

00:59:14 Joy

I know, she says. I'm so happy, she says. Somebody is hearing me and seeing me and listening me. She's just ecstatic. OK. There you go. So, yes, little merrily. And you know what? Little, merrily. It's not just me and my guys. You can hear you.

00:59:31 Joy

The more you feel good about yourself, little merrily, the more you feel worthy of being heard. Merrily and little merrily, the more people are going to hear you there. You're there. You go. Your whole self relaxed. OK, so now, as you're relaxed and at ease, let's bring in money.

00:59:51 Joy

And see now money is really, really attracted to this energy field. It feels it feels happy and the money frequency actually feels happy.

01:00:00 Joy

You know.

01:00:01 Joy

And it feels happy, because in this moment, Mary, you are valuing yourself and you're honoring your worth. And money loves that. There you go. So let's see money flowing in so that it is.

01:00:18 Joy

In such an abundant manner, and you allow in yourself to receive it easily and effortless way so that your hearts desires are fulfilled. So whether that's, you know, buying a house, whether it's saving for retirement, whether it's quitting your job, traveling, whatever you're looking.

01:00:36 Joy

Thing for.

01:00:38 Joy

There you go. So just allow yourself to be fulfilled with the abundance of money with receiving money, aligning with money and feeling good about it. Feeling good about receiving money, aligning money with money, having money, experiencing.

01:00:58 Joy

Having an abundance of money and fulfilling your hearts desires.

01:01:05 Joy

So.

01:01:16 Joy

Take a deep breath in.

01:01:19 Joy

Let that go.

01:01:23 Joy

There you go. Namaste.

01:01:25 Merrily

Namaste. Oh, that was really good.

01:01:29 Joy

Yeah. So that's what I do.

01:01:31 Merrily

Oh, that's so awesome. Yeah, definitely. And I think it's so great to acknowledge those things, right? Like acknowledging like little me, like thinking I can't have things or.

01:01:42 Merrily

You know. Yeah, it's so good because they they do want to get.

01:01:47 Joy

Acknowledged and have their voices heard for sure? Yeah. And that's a lot. What I do, it's just well, my guides. Do I just. Yeah. You know, the messenger, but acknowledge those parts of ourselves that generally don't get acknowledged or witnessed or seen and. And yeah, it seemed to a lot of inner child work like the inner child.

01:02:08 Joy

That little merrily showing up there and yeah, she she really wants to talk. She really wants to have.

01:02:14 Joy

A voice.

01:02:15 Joy

And yeah, so that.

01:02:19 Joy

A lot of the often the inner child will show up and I just love that cause. That's when, you know, we're getting to that really vulnerable place and then allows me to be really vulnerable as well. So I love that when that happens. So thank you, little Mary Lee, for showing up.

01:02:35 Merrily

Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you. Yeah. You're an excellent guide for sure. That was a really cool process. Well, what are, you know, what kind of wrapping up, but do you have any sort of events or projects that you want to let the listeners know about?

01:02:53 Joy

Well, they can get if they go to my website courageandaction.com courage. And IN action.com there's a free ebook on there. It's messages from spirit and it's about all kinds of topics. Some are written, some are MP threes. You get that events I do in July. So yeah, if you enter.

01:03:12 Joy

Your e-mail? That's actually a 33 days of 33 days of healing, and there's a whole bunch to that program.

01:03:20 Joy

And so if you enter your e-mail, you know for the for the free ebook, I'll be sending out. I mean, that'll still be another month or two. Well, it's a little over a month before I start sending out notifications for that, but that's a really powerful program. That's the 33 days of healing. You can find it on my website as well and.

01:03:41 Joy

And then you can go into the shop. What are the really popular MP threes there? Is the shopper balance just I I say it's popular because a lot of people e-mail me afterwards and say how it's supported them and you know they listen to it multiple times. There's several MP threes there, but as far as specific programs, it'll be the 33 days of healing.

01:04:02 Joy

That will start actually the end of June.

01:04:04 Merrily

Oh, cool. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, folks are looking to kind of have some healing and look more into Joyce. Work definitely go to your website and I'll put all the links of course in the show.

01:04:17 Merrily

Oops, so you can easily access them. Wow. Yeah. Thank you so much. Like kind.

01:04:23 Joy

You want me to do, like kind of a group process for everybody or no, OK.

01:04:26 Merrily

Sure. Yeah, let's do that.

01:04:29 Joy

OK, so let's see. Take a deep breath in, OK?

01:04:35 Joy

And just so we're going to start with seeing, you know, the emotions and the collective consciousness that are keeping you stuck. And there's some grief coming out. OK, so this is grief about.

01:04:50 Joy

Like how much the world has changed the past, you know, especially the past five years, and it's grief about the way things were and their normality of it. And even though you want, you're enjoying the awakening, even if it's causing struggle. There's a part of you that knows this is awakening.

01:05:10 Joy

But it's also grief about, you know, I just want a break from it and everything to feel normal again, but rather than.

01:05:20 Joy

Like honor and acknowledge that desire for normality, but also allow yourself to align with the wisdom that is in all these changes. It is there is wisdom to be found within all these wisdom and awakening within all these changes. And you know the chaos.

01:05:42 Joy

So let's acknowledge that grief. There you go.

01:05:47 Joy

Let's just acknowledge that grief. Honor that. Let that be released.

01:05:52 Joy

To the light.

01:05:53 Joy

And now we're going to our source to align you with.

01:05:58 Joy

The beauty of the.

01:06:02 Joy

Awakening process. There you go. There's a lot of awakening and discovery happening right now, and OK, there's a fear that I won't be able to handle at all. I won't be able to. So, OK, just breathe. This is bringing up some trauma. This is trauma that.

01:06:20 Joy

But it's like if things change too rapidly, I won't be able to handle it all. I won't be able to understand the changes and OK, just breathe. We're just witnessing this trauma. It's like collective trauma. It's in the collective consciousness. There you go. So all the ways is trauma is.

01:06:40 Joy

Has up until now been keeping us all bound together and now it's breaking up and that can cause a lot of disruption and chaos. Know that at your core you are safe.

01:06:54 Joy

The allow the non physical benevolent light beings to support you, ask for their help, ask for their guidance and support at any time. They're always here to support you, but you need to ask just. You can even just say your name or ask in detail if there's something you're looking for. And then just say this.

01:07:15 Joy

Or something greater this or something greater?

01:07:19 Joy

There you go. Your whole self relaxed. OK there. And your released attention from your solar plexus and sacrum.

01:07:27 Joy

And there is some happiness. There you go. There's some gratitude. It's like you're able to look around now and say, you know what, there might be chaos. There might be a lot of different agendas taking place right now. And but I am OK.

01:07:43 Joy

Even if things have changed in a great way for you know that you are safe in this moment, you are safe. You're OK. Have gratitude for that. Appreciate that. There you go there. Your whole self relaxed. Take a deep breath in.

01:08:02 Joy

Let that go, if any, at anytime you're feeling anxious, you're feeling fearful, overwhelmed. Acknowledge those emotions. Set them free, and then bring yourself back to the present. Look around and say you know what, in this moment I am safe. I'm OK all my needs.

01:08:21 Joy

For Matt and I am ready and willing to move forward with flow ease, grace from this space in place.

01:08:30 Joy

There you go. There's some fun and laughter there. You're feeling so much more grounded, happy and safe.

01:08:38 Joy

Social kabus.

01:09:00 Joy

Say bye bye.

01:09:07 Joy

There you go, my friend. Namaste.

01:09:13 Merrily

Hey, thanks, joy. Oh, that was so good. That felt really good. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, everybody, like, comment down below. If you felt anything for sure or send joy. An e-mail. Yeah, that was really cool. Thank you so much.

01:09:18 Joy

Ohh.

01:09:18 Joy

God.

01:09:30 Joy

You're welcome. Thank you for having letting me do.

01:09:33 Merrily

That, yeah. Ah, and you know, so we kind of weighs in the show you give us so much wisdom. But are there any sort of final words of wisdom that you would like to leave us with today?

01:09:47 Joy

Yes, your your past doesn't define who you are. No matter what you've been through, what you've experienced, what you've done, that's not who you are. It doesn't define who you are. You choose who you are. You are amazing, beautiful light being. You are here to radiate your light. That divine strength, that divine.

01:10:06 Joy

Power and that divine courage is within you know that. Feel that be that allowed that to guide you. Because you do matter. You are important. You have value. You are enough.

01:10:18 Joy

So let your light shine be your true self.

01:10:23 Merrily

Beautiful. Ohh, well thank you joy. I'm so glad we got connected and.

01:10:28 Joy

Yeah. Thank you for having me on your show.

01:10:32 Merrily

Joy was such a genuine pleasure to chat with and has a really calming and clear energy about her. I learned so much about the limitations we put on ourselves and how overcoming them is the key to creating the life we want. We got to check out Joyce offerings in the show notes below. She has many different methods to get you to step into your power. Do you remember to like, follow and subscribe on YouTube or your favorite podcast?

01:10:52 Merrily

Platform. It really helps us. Grant. Thank you for listening and being an important part of the casual.

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