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Welcome to Casual Tempo Podcast, episode 53, and I'm your host, Merrily Duffy at Casual Temple. Our mission is to discover connection to the unseen world of spirit and how that empowers us to know the true selves once to support our journey, subscribe and leave a star review on your favorite podcast platform. You can also donate via Red Circle page link in the show notes for the We love hearing from you, so please leave a comment.

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This week, we're thrilled to welcome Samantha Nacman, A visionary storyteller and energy healer, to the temple today. Together we discussed the question we all ask ourselves regarding resilience and chaos. How does one find order with Samantha's unique lines in the insights we explore? The interplay between intuition and connection with our ancestors? We cover a lot of ground in this episode regarding carving your own path.

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Honing your intuitive abilities and how communing with your ancestors can be incredibly healing, so stay tuned to the Casual Temple podcast where we keep our third eye open.

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Welcome to the casual.

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Tempo.

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This week we have the wonderful Samantha Nekton.

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Who bridges creativity, spirituality and resilience in her work and life as a ceremonial list, ancestral medium and energy worker. As a young mother, Sam weathered the challenges of being excommunicated from her religious and cultural communities.

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She has channeled her expulsion into ancestral healing by delving into Earth based spirituality and honing her intuitive ability.

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As a practitioner, guide and mentor Samantha Shears her Judy with us today. Samantha, it's so great to have you on the casual tempo.

00:01:37 Samantha

It's so exciting to be here.

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Oh, I just want to let everybody know how we got connected because it was from a previous guest, Amy Andrews. Everybody got to listen to Emma's interview. She's a wonderful warm hearted. Just.

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Just an amazing person. I know. Sam, you know all about her. But you know Sam and Sam and I were talking after the interview, and she mentioned that she had a friend that went to SCF BS, which is the Center for Babylon Studies.

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There was an event in August and I was like, oh, I went to that. And so you reached out to me because I'm assuming you guys had a conversation. And then I was like, oh, cool, you know, so we got to talking. And I saw that you were into, like, the stuff I like to talk about.

00:02:24 Merrily

Well, and so I'm like, well, perfect. Let's chitchat. And so I'm very excited that you are so open and willing to come on today. So thank you.

00:02:32 Samantha

Yeah, I'm excited. Shout out to Emma Andrews. She's the coolest. She's the sweetest. Yeah.

00:02:36 Merrily

Yes. Ohh my gosh.

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Well, so we start at whatever you consider the beginning of how you got onto this or your current path, we'll start.

00:02:48 Samantha

Cool. Well, whenever people ask me that question for some reason, I'm always brought back to like my origin story. And it's not a story that I can necessarily tell so succinctly, but the story that I'm always brought back to you when I have that question, it's is the.

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My expulsion from the Christian Church, actually, in 2018, I was in school full time studying marketing and music, and I got pregnant.

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With my daughter, who's now 6.

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And also at the same time, I was an organist for the church. I was a youth group leader. I was like all these things in the church. And so I was full, my responsibilities and my roles. I had so many related to the church. And then also my life.

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Then I got pregnant around April 2018, but in the church that I was raised in, it's it's like the rules to.

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Not first, not date. Anybody outside of the church. And then also absolutely not to get pregnant by somebody who's outside of the church. And those two things happened. You know, life happens and that so that year.

00:04:07 Merrily

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I was expelled and then a month later or I was expelled and then that was like a huge public.

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Experience. It was it was sort of.

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Like my first.

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Ever canceling? I guess maybe my only canceling like before. Before I knew what cancelling.

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All right.

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Was I guess.

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And that was that was the point where I really.

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I really questioned everything that I was raised to believe.

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You've.

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Everything about my feeling of being so devoted to the church God.

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My faith, whatever that was at the time because I was so sure of my decision, you know, to have my daughter to, to commit to this, to also.

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You know.

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Allow the consequences of my decisions and my actions to unfold, knowing what they were.

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So with that, I.

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I didn't really like let myself.

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Go into the space where I could explore other belief systems until three months later of my expulsion, and then to kind of like, make the short the story a little bit shorter. I went digging and found some things about the church that I was not happy about that I was.

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Hmm.

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Not ever wanting to be affiliated with ever, and that's when I started digging for other information that's wasn't about the church, but more so about.

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Hmm.

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How did I get here? Why was I born into this thing, and how did my family get involved with this and so naturally that brought me into ancestral research? Like how did Grandpa get into this, and how did his dad and then before that, what were you doing?

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Right.

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Hmm.

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You know, so.

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Well, that's that's really what started me on studying Eastern religious texts and then Western religious texts, Christianity itself, how it became, what it is now. And then also my own ancestral spirituality with that you and I have some, you know, some common threads.

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Yeah, to share about that, I guess that's like the short long.

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MHM.

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Version of.

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The.

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Story. Yeah. Wow, there's a lot, a lot there for sure.

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I'm curious if you know I don't want to dig too much into your family stuff. It's too personal. So you feel free to to. You know, we're not going to go down there if that's where.

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You want to.

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Go. But I'm curious about because you mentioned your grandfather. So how did they get affiliated with this particular church?

00:07:23 Samantha

Yeah. So this the church that I was born into, it has been around in my paternal side for.

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With.

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Me included, it was 4 generations, so I'd be the 4th generation. So my grandfather was brought into the church when his dad. So my great grandfather helped to build the church.

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Wow.

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Hmm.

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Help.

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So he wasn't.

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He he was one of the founding members, founding ministers and it's I love telling this part. And in the story because.

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It.

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There's a lot of like lore that I'm still learning and I'm still uncovering and.

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Just what family members are willing to share, and then and then piercing it together with my own work at the ancestor altar I'm like.

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Right.

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That's what they're saying.

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Ohh Daisy.

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Because my grandfather. Now, you mentioned him on my on my dad's side. He he was actually somebody that the rest of the family who didn't want to be in involved or converted into this church. They were trying to save and and protect with I.

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Hmm.

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I've heard stories of like unties giving him like talismans to, like protect him while he was in the church and.

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Trying to teach him different magic practices before he was old enough to really be indoctrinated.

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Right.

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But.

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Before then, I'm still so curious and we'll probably always be digging into what was going on then.

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And who these women were, because it's such a feminine presence. When I think about this part of the story in my line. Like what? What were they doing? How like?

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Yeah.

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I want to know, right. Yeah. I want to. I want to.

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I I want to go back in time and and see it happen for myself.

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Yeah.

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Ohh man yeah for sure and I'll say it definitely have a similarity in in my background with my mother's family who she's a Filipina.

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And kind of similarly.

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Her. Her grandmother, right. Yeah. Her grandmother, Dionisia Dionisia.

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She was like, you know, doing certain things. Like my mom was like, oh, she would wake me up in the, like, 4:00 AM and we would have to go pray do prayers. But she was like, but I couldn't understand what she was saying. Right. And I was like, well, what do you mean, like, she wasn't? Was she speaking Tagalog or not Tagalog? What I because we were what?

00:10:22 Merrily

She's speaking what I like, what was going on. She was like, no, it was something else. And I was like, OK, was it Latin? I'm assuming because, you know, they're Catholic. She was like, I think it was Latin.

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Hmm.

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And so I was like, oh, OK, so they were doing the OR. She was doing the. Oh, gosh, I always forget the name.

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Of.

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It The what is it the the there's like a particular term where they're mixing Latin and then like other other terms or whatever to do sort of like a devotional thing in the morning.

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So it's like that syncretic practice of like what so folk Filipinos would do is like mix their like magic practice with like Catholicism, like it would be like the same thing. Yeah. So they also mix Latin with like, you know, you know what I or.

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Mm-hmm.

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Robert.

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And so yeah, and so and then my mom would tell a story of, like, how my grandmother you were not allowed to go into the bamboo forest that surrounded their their home unless you asked her first because she had to go out and talk to the spirits that lived in that forest. And of course, you know, what happens is like one of my uncles.

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Didn't.

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Ask. We went into the forest and like, broke his leg. Like broke his leg.

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Ohh man it's like.

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And then she's having to like, you know, one she's like.

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****** *** because now.

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She has to go into the forest like a.

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Big.

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Tray of like food and everything, and like for my mom, said she was out there for hours, like telling, you know, telling them to, like, heal her. Because I think he developed like a fever and a sickness from the broken leg anyway, like.

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Wow.

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Like and it worked like.

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She she was putting in work now she's put in the the work man for her family, don't her.

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Yeah, I'm, like, so curious, you know, of course, I asked my mom and, like, what specifically what she said you.

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Know I want.

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To know specifics because I want to put it into like what I'm doing or whatever, and my mom's like.

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I don't know.

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She was my mom was so funny. She's like she was weird and I.

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Was like.

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Oh my gosh. I'm like I'm like.

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Worse.

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I know exactly, daughter. Yes.

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Putting it.

00:12:35 Merrily

Exactly. I'm like, of course. Yeah. So yeah, it is like, you want to know, like, the like, what were they saying? What were they doing? Yeah. And it was a thing. I talked with Lane about Lane Wilkin.

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I was like, you know, doing these things I feel or doing these rituals with communing with the ancestors. I feel like we can learn those things.

00:12:58 Samantha

Yeah.

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We can ask them how. What were you doing? Why were you doing these things and get those messages in an intuitive sense. You know, lane, he said. Like, yeah, he. That's how he got some of his information. But because he's writing books, he's like, I had to, like, tie it with, like, scholar information.

00:13:16 Samantha

Right, you have to cross reference this. You've seen references and the unseen references and somehow make them. I mean it's. I don't even think you need to really like do a lot of work when when you're so clear or like when you're so you know, focus and connected on what it is that.

00:13:22 Merrily

Yes.

00:13:33 Samantha

You're you're working to for some reason the word is is harvest. That's coming to mind from, you know, from the past, like, what's coming to mind is the story of, like, I was just doing, like a fire.

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With my friends.

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And we're not like, at this moment in my life, we were not like a a bona fide.

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Heaven or anything where we were like sitting and like doing formal ritual or ceremonies together.

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But I I just like felt. I felt like I wanted to, like, take an egg. It was one of my friends who was pregnant at the time, and she was talking about wanting like a mother blessing and and and just something like that to, like, mark this important moment in her life. And I did not understand why I wanted to do this at the time.

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Hmm.

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Yeah.

00:14:21 Samantha

But I got an egg. I was like, I just feel like I need to do this for you tonight. And so I got an egg from the fridge and I ran it around. I ran it all over her body.

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And I I broke the egg and and put it in the fire and.

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I later learned, just through my own ancestral research, ancestral research like what I was doing, but not because I like, read it in the book. And I was like, following a script literally. You know, when they say, like, it's in your blood and bones like that is one of the stories that comes so strongly for me is that.

00:14:46 Merrily

Yeah.

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Yes. Yeah.

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It's not just us being creative. It's not just intuition, you know, so, so plain and simple. Like it's in the DNA. And and it's specific. It's really, really specific too. I'm always so blown away when when things like that happen and.

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MHM.

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I'm I'm loving hearing all the stories about how it's happening for.

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There.

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So many so many people, yeah.

00:15:27 Merrily

Yeah.

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Oh, I love that. That's so cool. Yeah, I definitely know about the egg like.

00:15:33 Samantha

Yeah.

00:15:34 Merrily

The egg, yeah.

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And it's so cool. And yeah, and I know that's in like other cultures too. They do a lot of stuff with, like the egg and clearing and stuff too. So it's so cool.

00:15:43 Samantha

Yeah, yeah.

00:15:48 Merrily

Oh man. Yeah, I'm very curious about. So in your family, you know, with this situation of, you know, being expelled from your church, did you have any support or guidance, whether it was your family or people?

00:16:01 Samantha

Yeah, yeah.

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Outside of the church, that kind of.

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Helped you along.

00:16:11 Samantha

Well.

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That.

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They were actually advised by the church elders not to like not to go to my baby shower, not to like hang out with me after work.

00:16:24 Merrily

MHM.

00:16:26 Samantha

And it was a very blatant communication, like there was like the social thing of just like, oh, are you gonna go hang out with her kind of thing? But there was also like, the very UM.

00:16:35 Merrily

Yeah.

00:16:40 Samantha

Administering real way of just like this will happen to you if you do this to like my friends. And you know my community there. But I I did have so much support from my partner. I'm just, like, blown away by how.

00:17:00 Samantha

Devoted. He was to our relationship, to me, to Cora, even before she was born.

00:17:08 Samantha

Because he really was like a rock through all of it and and not.

00:17:12 Samantha

Because.

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Not because I asked him to. Yeah, but him his family.

00:17:20 Samantha

And I I had, I have cousins also who had left the church before or who were already thinking about it. And so when I was expelled, they really.

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Made themselves available to me to be like, you know, even if it wasn't perfect, we could like just.

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Be we could just witness each other's pain around this and that really was so healing for me. And I think for a lot for them as well, but also for our family in ways that.

00:17:44 Merrily

Hmm.

00:17:55 Samantha

I don't even know if a lot of us are aware of how how healing it has been to connect about this. This kind of like Christianized culture that we were born into. So yeah, I didn't have so much support in terms of what I was.

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Yeah.

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Hmm.

00:18:15 Samantha

Yeah, I used to with like, a whole church to go to and people who just like understood me and like where I was coming from. But through that, you know, people show up when the the, the people who are here for you, I think who.

00:18:21 Merrily

MHM.

00:18:29 Samantha

Who?

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Who are here for you in the version that you are becoming, just show up. Just just pop up out of the ground. Right and.

00:18:44 Samantha

Yeah. And I'm just so grateful to to have those people when I did.

00:18:50 Merrily

Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm glad that you had some support and I'm glad that your partner was able to be there for you and and for your baby. And it's just so I don't know. I mean, it's just so weird to.

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Me like.

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Having a baby is such a natural process.

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It's.

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You know, it's just so weird that, like, expel somebody from a community. I don't know. That's just really heartbreaking to me. You know what I mean?

00:19:13 Samantha

It's so old school.

00:19:14 Merrily

Oh my gosh, it's so old school, but it's like, but that's what humans do. That's what we do. That's children, you know, it's just, I don't know. It's so weird.

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Yeah.

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Or.

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Right.

00:19:27 Merrily

Yeah. So I'm sorry you had to go through that, but I'm. I'm happy. You know, you came out the other side and you have people in your life.

00:19:33 Merrily

That you know.

00:19:33 Samantha

Helped you a lot. Yeah. And honestly, I'm I'm grateful for the entire thing. Like I can. I've been telling this story over and over ever since it happened in different ways. And the more that I tell it, the more that I can.

00:19:46 Samantha

Really, just like, see how it it was, it was like death. And this is a.

00:19:52 Samantha

Big word, right?

00:19:53 Samantha

But it it felt like destiny, like this was always going to happen. This needed to happen. In order for this, this and this for me to be here. To to.

00:19:55 Merrily

Right, yes.

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To.

00:20:03 Samantha

To talk to you, to, to have the practices, to bring, to revitalize everything that's being revitalized and mean. And so I'm, I'm truly so grateful for it, even though there is a lot of pain and.

00:20:21 Samantha

Messed upness about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:26 Merrily

But I like. I like the word destiny personally in in describing your own story, because I like to think all of us, we are writing our epic, our own epics, our own. You know what I mean? Like.

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Yeah, yeah.

00:20:38 Merrily

It should sound like if you're going to tell your daughter the story, you know how she came into the world and all the struggles mom and you know your partner with, you know, like, that's like a story that's like an epic.

00:20:50 Samantha

Yeah.

00:20:51 Samantha

Yeah.

00:20:52 Merrily

So. So I like thinking in those terms of like destiny and yeah, it applies.

00:20:57 Samantha

Yeah, and she has, like, I tell her all the time. Even though she I'm not not to taunt her anything. I'm just like Cory. You have no idea what my life was like before.

00:21:07 Samantha

Like literally no clue, right? Because she changed everything. I was like, my life is not at all what it was before her. So she's gonna listen to this podcast in the future, and she's gonna be like, what? What? What were you talking about? Really.

00:21:26 Merrily

Oh my gosh. Well, I definitely want to get into sort of the broader sort of connection to your Filipino spirituality. But I do want to.

00:21:34 Merrily

Talk.

00:21:34 Merrily

About because you.

00:21:38 Merrily

Did some course or did some learning at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, and the reason I was like, oh, we talked about that is because the school that I went to here in Seattle, the teachers.

00:21:48 Merrily

Where?

00:21:49 Merrily

They were involved in the Berkeley Psychic Institute.

00:21:52 Merrily

And so basically that's how I I looked, undo aura clearings and readings and sort of you know all the processes are pretty much the same from what I can tell in the research. So yeah, how did you get involved with them and?

00:21:56 Samantha

Yeah.

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MHM.

00:22:07 Samantha

Yeah. Well, you probably know how it is. You follow the crumbs. One thing leads to another. The way that I was introduced to to be Pi was through.

00:22:25 Samantha

New Earth mystery school teacher her name is Miriam Hasna, and she does like a monthly class about different topic topics.

00:22:35 Samantha

Teams I had taken maybe like a couple, like free classes from her before and I loved.

00:22:41 Samantha

Her. Oh my gosh. Her message. It's so authentic and so real and so true, but also so, like centered on in the heart. And what they're, you know.

00:22:52 Samantha

Like.

00:22:53 Samantha

Social justice there's. There's that too. And she I went to a class in the New York Mystery school community called.

00:23:02 Samantha

Sacred play and amusement. And she had the wife. I forget her name. I wish her name. But I know her first name is Susan.

00:23:13 Samantha

Come and teach the second class, so there's usually two classes. There's the 1.0 and then the 2.0 and the 2.0. She came and guests taught about sacred play and amusement, but then also brought in some practices, some tools, psychic tools from VPI, of course.

00:23:31 Samantha

Shared her story how her and her husband started BPI, and then I went. I went investigating. I was like, what is this thing? This sounds cool and I took meditation one. I've also taken healing one and two and.

00:23:47 Samantha

The beginning of this year, I just finished women's intuition with the director. Uh Rainey, A Augustus. I believe it's her last name, but I could be.

00:23:51 Merrily

Hmm.

00:23:59 Samantha

Wrong.

00:24:02 Samantha

And I.

00:24:04 Samantha

It's it's really, I think it's a really cool space to train the our psychic abilities to really get a a rein in on our intuition, because I think that we can kind of.

00:24:24 Samantha

Hmm.

00:24:26 Samantha

I don't want.

00:24:26 Samantha

To say the word exploit, but I do think that we can exploit our own intuition. Sometimes it can get too too far in one way and and I love a practitioner who is so skillful in the energy work in this in their psychic abilities.

00:24:31 Merrily

Hmm.

00:24:44 Samantha

And somebody who who? Who knows that there's this. There's so much intricacy when it comes to psychic work, and I've I've really found a place to have mentorship and.

00:25:02 Samantha

Teachers who can help me train all of this that's going on here because it's been it's just been running wild for so long that you know.

00:25:13 Samantha

That is, it's like led to like health stuff and all these other things.

00:25:15

So.

00:25:20 Samantha

And BPI to sing their praises even more. I guess it's just like, been like a way in the modern world for me to have teachers and mentorship and.

00:25:31 Samantha

Training in my gifts because I don't. I'm not walking around like finding these people left and right, you know? So I'm grateful for the online, the online programs and that community to support me so that I can support, you know.

00:25:39 Merrily

Right.

00:25:51 Samantha

The people who find who find me.

00:25:53 Merrily

Yeah. Oh, that's such a beautiful explanation of what they do. And it's pretty much exactly the way I found.

00:26:00 Merrily

Them, or at least the school here, which is called psychic awakenings. But it was more like because I have this acupuncturist who's awesome, but like psychic awakenings, is literally in the same house. And then like I saw like a flyer and I was like psychic. Oh, I was like, you know what I think I need. I I need this because I was having the same thing like.

00:26:21 Merrily

I was having, you know, I was doing a lot of meditation. I was doing a lot of magical practices. There were beings coming into my space. I didn't know how to manage that. I didn't know how. Like, you know what was going on? I'm like, what do I do with these messages? I'm going. I don't know what to do.

00:26:35 Samantha

Yeah.

00:26:37 Merrily

But they give you those tools and that you know, and not that I don't think they're exactly the same. A lot of the tools like we had psych psychic 101102 and then like the healing classes but like it does give you some really good things to work off of.

00:26:57 Merrily

And manage all of that energy. And I'm very big about like separation and boundary.

00:27:02 Samantha

Oh my gosh, yes, me too.

00:27:04

What?

00:27:04 Samantha

But I can totally tell like as soon as we got on the.

00:27:08 Samantha

Call. I was like, Oh yes.

00:27:11 Samantha

It's just it's such.

00:27:12 Samantha

A.

00:27:13 Samantha

Breath of fresh air to me. And that's just, you know, I I know you understand why and and the, you know, the beings.

00:27:14 Merrily

Hmm.

00:27:21 Merrily

Yeah.

00:27:24 Samantha

In your space thing that was huge for me when I started doing work with VPI because I think I have.

00:27:27 Merrily

Yeah.

00:27:32

Like.

00:27:32 Samantha

I I I found that I have past. I have a past life where all I was doing was trans mediumship all the time. Like all the time. And that was like my only job, basically. And so I think that's how I had been doing.

00:27:40

Whoa.

00:27:43

Whoa.

00:27:51 Samantha

All my mediumship.

00:27:53

Hmm.

00:27:54 Samantha

For years. And then I started doing work with BPI and I was like I can this is I can do it differently and it's enjoyable, right? And I'm not freaked out. And I have, you know, I have sovereignty in my space and and it it's it's so it's such a breath of fresh air.

00:28:08 Merrily

Yeah.

00:28:16 Samantha

And honestly.

00:28:18 Samantha

There's so much depth to just having that ability from that lifetime to this lifetime and wherever else I'm going to go after this.

00:28:27 Merrily

Yes. Oh, that's so cool. Like to kind of see how you were probably. You were probably doing a great job in your past life, but it was.

00:28:34 Merrily

Probably very intense.

00:28:36 Samantha

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's like the only thing I had capacity for was just doing that all the time.

00:28:41 Merrily

Yeah.

00:28:42 Samantha

It's like, yeah.

00:28:44 Samantha

So different, so wild.

00:28:44 Merrily

Amen.

00:28:46 Merrily

It's making me think of. I'm sure you're familiar with Tyler Henry, who is the.

00:28:51 Merrily

The Netflix Guy, Netflix, the Netflix guy? Yes, I forgot he had was like a Netflix show before, but I watched like a bunch of. I do think he's very talented. But man, when I was watching, I was like Tyler Tyler. You need more boundaries, Tyler.

00:28:55 Samantha

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:07 Samantha

And I was like, I was like Sir.

00:29:11 Samantha

You turn it off and I'm like.

00:29:14 Merrily

Yeah, because he was like there was, like, a couple episodes where they showed him he would just be laid out in his bed for days after he would do, like, intense readings. And I was like, Tyler, shut the thingy off.

00:29:24 Samantha

Oh my God.

00:29:28

I know.

00:29:30

I.

00:29:31 Samantha

I don't know.

00:29:32 Samantha

In primary.

00:29:32 Merrily

Yes, it's just even there. Nobody else.

00:29:38 Samantha

Yeah. And and I think that's like what I noticed when I I literally only watched like the first episode of his Netflix documentary thing. And I note, I noticed that, like, right off the.

00:29:47

Ohh yeah.

00:29:49 Samantha

Bat and I was like.

00:29:52 Samantha

He.

00:29:55 Samantha

It's like you need. I wanna. You know. Yeah, yeah, I know. And I know, like, literally a whole.

00:30:04 Samantha

Timeline away.

00:30:05 Merrily

Right.

00:30:06 Samantha

Here like.

00:30:10 Merrily

I hope you figure it out soon, Tyler.

00:30:11 Merrily

No. Yeah, I hope so too.

00:30:14 Merrily

Yeah, I think he's figured a little bit out honestly, because it seems like he's a little healthier and gained some weight and I think he has a partner that's like invested in his health. So I think it's getting better. But you know, I'm just like.

00:30:27 Merrily

That I think that's, you know, maybe sort of a drawback in his case is like he got it so early.

00:30:32 Merrily

You know he.

00:30:33 Merrily

Was able to practice so early, probably like your past life, right? It was just like everybody was like I.

00:30:38 Merrily

Need this.

00:30:39 Samantha

Yeah.

00:30:40 Merrily

Give me. Give me. And you're like. Yes, I'm a giving person, yes.

00:30:43 Samantha

Yeah.

00:30:44 Merrily

Like man. So yeah. So I'm glad that you you found tools. I'm glad I also found tools to kind of manage it because it's a lot.

00:30:51

Yeah.

00:30:54 Samantha

And I I want that sort of set up for all psychics out there. I guess I want to say that on this on this podcast, like there's a, there's a different way. If you're exhausted after channeling or doing medium ship like you, it doesn't have to be that way. It's not the. It's not the only way.

00:30:57

Yes.

00:31:04 Merrily

Yes.

00:31:07

Yeah.

00:31:10 Merrily

Yes.

00:31:13 Merrily

Right, yes, you can have like a life.

00:31:16 Samantha

Yeah. Your work. Yeah. You can do more than one session a day.

00:31:17 Merrily

And do.

00:31:23 Merrily

If you want to, if you want to yes. Ohh yeah, definitely. So yeah, a really good tool like hauling back your own energy from where you left it or rent like it's good stuff. You know guys, if you're.

00:31:33 Samantha

Remove.

00:31:34 Merrily

Interested in your own psychic abilities? Or have them and want to, you know, maybe look into the psychic Berkeley Psychic Psychic Institute to see if it's a good fit.

00:31:43 Samantha

Tell them we sent.

00:31:44 Samantha

You.

00:31:45 Merrily

Yeah. Good.

00:31:48

So.

00:31:50 Merrily

Well, now we have kind of a big question because I'm still trying to puzzle this out. So I've been trying to ask all the wonderful Filipinos that have been talking with me like, what is your perspective on Filipino spirituality and how or whether how it relates to your specific family or the wider cultural community?

00:32:09 Merrily

That's a big question.

00:32:11 Samantha

It really is.

00:32:12 Merrily

Yeah.

00:32:13 Samantha

I I guess right now in in current time.

00:32:17 Merrily

Yeah.

00:32:18 Samantha

I am.

00:32:20 Samantha

Really, just so grateful for the elders who have made themselves available to the wider community. You know, I have the book here, the Babylon book by Doctor Lenny Strobel. And at the Lenny, I'm so grateful for having met them and for their writings.

00:32:32 Merrily

Oh yeah.

00:32:40 Samantha

They're publishings for all. All the work that they are doing to make it to, to make a perspective on.

00:32:50 Samantha

Filipino spirituality available.

00:32:54 Samantha

Because I I have not had teachers and you know I've had. I've had one mentor and she was not even trained in our own cultural practices. She was trained by the Cairo people.

00:33:06

Hmm.

00:33:07 Samantha

In Peru and so to have that ability to weave in wisdom from, you know, people like Doctor Lenny and.

00:33:21 Samantha

To Lily, they they really have been giving me personally somewhere to to to start with. Returning to the old old original ways and and bridging this communal gap for me specifically.

00:33:42 Samantha

Like I live in Richmond, VA, there's not a lot of Filipinos here. I don't have a like a lot of I don't have a big Filipino community like I did before. And in the church that I was raised in was basically all Filipino people.

00:33:55

Hmm.

00:33:56 Samantha

And so I personally feel really grateful to have.

00:34:01 Samantha

Been welcomed in some way or to have like, dipped my toes into this, this community that has been stirring, and I also am very particular about my practice. I really want.

00:34:21 Samantha

It to feel true to me on more levels than just culturally.

00:34:27 Samantha

Something that I've been working through a lot actually is doing it the right way. You know how the Bible Ellen is described? I still need to keep healthy separation between what is being said. The Babylon.

00:34:46 Samantha

Should be like what is driving the Babylon to do the work that she is doing and what is she is doing it for? What are they doing it for?

00:34:51 Merrily

Right.

00:34:56 Samantha

It's.

00:34:59 Samantha

It's been a little difficult for me to.

00:35:03 Samantha

To come from such a self sacrificial devoted to, you know, to the church background and come into this space in Filipino spirituality where it is so community focused and that's not a bad thing. But but when I.

00:35:22 Samantha

Bring all of that wealth of knowledge.

00:35:26 Samantha

Into my practice where I'm learning how to listen to myself and act on my own authority. There there is some tension that I come up against. There is some stuff that I'm like, well, I want to do it this way, but this is what.

00:35:35 Merrily

Hmm.

00:35:39 Merrily

Oh yeah.

00:35:46 Samantha

They're the elders are saying, yeah, this is what the elders are saying. I should how I should do it. And then I love talking about business and money and.

00:35:52

Hmm.

00:35:57 Samantha

And I don't hear a lot of that conversation being had in the Filipino spiritual communities, which I think.

00:36:03

Hmm.

00:36:04 Samantha

I would love to have those conversations because I don't know and I want to know. Yeah. So with with that, I guess that's that's where I am in current time with.

00:36:06 Merrily

Yeah.

00:36:21 Samantha

A and I guess for lack of a better word, like an indigenous spiritual practice.

00:36:27 Merrily

MHM.

00:36:29 Samantha

That's how I feel about, you know, how we got connected. And also I am excited to see how it changes because I I think that all with some traditions should continue to be updated and evolved with the people who are.

00:36:51 Samantha

Stewarding, stewarding them forward.

00:36:54 Merrily

Yeah.

00:36:56 Merrily

Oh yeah, there's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot there for sure. And I'm kind of.

00:37:00 Samantha

Kind of just.

00:37:01 Merrily

Yeah. No, I mean, you kind of have to because to be honest, you know, you're trying to figure out.

00:37:09 Merrily

You know, sort of how.

00:37:11 Merrily

Like where Filipino spirituality like was that pre colonialism you know because we have.

00:37:17 Merrily

To look at.

00:37:18 Merrily

You know the Spanish colonialism and then what was going on pre Co?

00:37:21 Merrily

Neil, but also understand that you know you and I are American, Filipino, Filipino Americans, Filipino Americans.

00:37:29 Merrily

In a modern time, you know, so how it's a lot of things, right, like you're trying to like fit together. A lot of things. And I'm on the same sort of.

00:37:33 Samantha

And it's not.

00:37:39 Merrily

Like trying to see how my current practice, which is definitely more Western for sure, like evolved out of more Western practices like how do I incorporate?

00:37:50 Merrily

Sort of. My more Filipino indigenous roots. And I do think that, you know, and I know we're gonna talk about your ancestral, you know, alter and all those things. Because I do think that's a big piece of it.

00:38:03 Merrily

I do think there's like a good chunk of it that has to do with sort of real like a really solid ancestral practice.

00:38:13 Merrily

But also the thing that you mentioned and I'm I was like you know 100% is like I do think Community community is a huge part of like the Filipino psyche it you know, but like you're saying like the when somebody wants to break out of the community, that's where that tension happens of like I kind of want to go my own way.

00:38:31 Merrily

A little bit, right?

00:38:33 Samantha

Yeah, yeah.

00:38:33 Merrily

That's where that tension happens.

00:38:36 Merrily

And and I see it with like my mother's family. And you know, because she's come from a, you know, she's in the province, they're from the provinces on latee on when you.

00:38:45 Merrily

1 so it's like a really small town. I'm basically related to everybody you know, and you know, and it's funny that they don't have anything about money because, like, you know, there's a lot of stuff about money, you know, in the Philippines because there's a lot of poverty. And my family is not excluded from that.

00:39:05 Merrily

So it's like, you know, when you're trying to like make your own way, make your own money separate from the group and then, but then there's that community pull of like, well, we also need money from meat, right? Yeah.

00:39:17 Samantha

Yeah.

00:39:20 Merrily

So yeah, it's a really hard balance. And yeah, I hope we all kind of get to a place where we figure it out.

00:39:28 Samantha

I I think we are, I mean at least in in the in the more communities, yeah, yeah.

00:39:34 Samantha

But I am, you know, I'm learning from and with like the conversation with like spirituality and money is something being had. And I I love the perspective that I.

00:39:46 Samantha

Been been working with which is that there there is like a financial system and this is a teaching that I've learned from Pilar Lesco. She is a Mystic and a business mentor.

00:40:01 Samantha

She has talked about there being a financial system embedded into the earth already, and it's our practice or our work to.

00:40:14 Samantha

To learn from the Earth and how the Earth teach us how to exchange with each other, how to share resources in the way.

00:40:20

Yeah.

00:40:26 Samantha

That it's that's that's.

00:40:28 Samantha

Here that's already here and not in ways that are just created.

00:40:34 Samantha

By a certain kind of culture and a certain kind of person. So I think it is available and it is still for from where I sit, it still looks pretty taboo to talk.

00:40:36 Merrily

Yes.

00:40:46 Samantha

About when we're talking about spirituality and when we're talking about activism and social justice work as well, I think those two things come up against each other a lot. And it's like, what do we how do we?

00:41:03 Samantha

Kind of right?

00:41:04 Merrily

Yeah. Ohh yeah. Money is such a a topic. It's interesting because I literally just. I had a guest or had an interview yesterday with a guest and we literally talked about money. Yeah. And she's like, she does, like, intuitive readings about sort of your own money story and how that like, affects you from attracting money.

00:41:15 Merrily

What's going on? Money.

00:41:24 Merrily

And stuff like that and.

00:41:25 Samantha

Cool.

00:41:27 Merrily

And I I love what you said about, like, sort of the idea of looking to like Mother Earth for, like Mother Earth knows how to, like, move energy around. If you think about it, that's what money is. She's like, she still wants all of the resources. She's she's. She's got all of it. Yes.

00:41:46 Samantha

And she's like, you guys are doing it wrong. Like, hello. Don't you see what I'm doing here? Yeah, absolutely. She's got it. And we're not listening.

00:41:53 Merrily

I know.

00:41:58 Merrily

I know you're not listening.

00:41:59 Samantha

Yeah, yeah.

00:42:01 Merrily

I do think that.

00:42:03 Merrily

In a lot of ways like that is like a good thing about sort of the the Filipinos are very resourceful in that sense, right? Of like, you know, reuse recycle, like, really good at like that sort of idea. But like, yeah. So what is sort of what is the process you went through sort?

00:42:15 Samantha

Good.

00:42:23 Merrily

You're doing your own sort of ancestral.

00:42:26 Merrily

Work for yourself so people can kind of see what how you found your way.

00:42:32 Samantha

Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, when I was expelled, I went just looking. UM, I actually went to a couple like mega churches for a while just to dip my toe into that scene. And then, you know, reading Eastern religious texts. And then I got into my ancestral.

00:42:51 Samantha

Practice because I wanted to understand how I got, how my family, how I then.

00:42:58 Samantha

Became part of the Christian fundamentalist church and religion.

00:43:01

MHM.

00:43:02 Samantha

So then I went backwards in time, basically just like investigating the story of my lineage on my dad's side, specifically my mom, my mom's side. It's still like recently Catholic and part of my practice at the moment is honoring that and, you know, bringing in like the full Catholicism.

00:43:22 Samantha

Practices with the earth based spiritual practice and communing with specifically like the like, the Blessed Mother.

00:43:32 Samantha

In in the way that I that I would commune with a like a deity, essentially because that's how I perceive her to be. And that relationship is still.

00:43:44 Samantha

Unfolding and becoming and and going deeper. But I found like a lot of healing in.

00:43:53 Samantha

In in in honoring and worshipping.

00:43:58 Samantha

A feminine God, essentially, and seeing myself in.

00:44:01 Merrily

Yeah.

00:44:05 Samantha

Seeing myself and her has been really.

00:44:09 Merrily

Cool.

00:44:12 Samantha

And so when I did sort of the ancestral investigation, it was prompted by just like, books that I could find.

00:44:19 Samantha

It's just like this book I'm looking at right now. It's just called ancestral medicine, just written by some like some some guy that's.

00:44:26 Merrily

Interesting.

00:44:27 Merrily

As a virgin.

00:44:28 Samantha

Apple no here. I'll pull down.

00:44:32 Samantha

Or is it Daniel four? Yes. Yes. Look at. Yeah, this one. And so I I I just did the practices. I did the practices in here and I'm ah, there's.

00:44:36 Merrily

That's a good one. I know I. It's amazing. Oh my God.

00:44:48

My.

00:44:49 Samantha

There's my grandparents. Yeah. Yeah. Grandpa George wanted to make an appearance in the podcast.

00:44:51 Merrily

Ohh.

00:44:57 Merrily

I yeah, I love it little grandpa.

00:45:01 Samantha

And so I would do these practices for myself and I would, you know, get the Intel and write everything down and and and figure and do the massaging out of the story I.

00:45:08 Merrily

Yeah.

00:45:14 Samantha

Hey.

00:45:15 Samantha

It's really awesome how things work when people decide to come into this work. At the time of people also seeking the teacher because one one of the people who mentored me and really awakened and opened up my gifts in a way that I don't think anybody else has because of how open her gifts are.

00:45:19 Merrily

Hmm.

00:45:36 Samantha

I I have this theory that when we are not even theory, I'm sure you've experienced this when like 2 auras come together, there's just like a.

00:45:44 Merrily

Opening of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:47 Samantha

You like kind of experience what the other person is experiencing in their space because you're like sharing information and and she mentored me. This was my friend.

00:46:02 Samantha

Rachel Hoglund, who is a Mesa Cara carrier of the Cara lineage people of Peru. She mentored me in person and for about a year and a half I would see her every other week and we would do hands on healing.

00:46:20 Samantha

And she would train me. She would train me to do hands on healing. She would train me to connect with the directions she would teach me to. She taught me how to make offerings to the Earth. So she really gave me this like introduction into Earth medicine and.

00:46:39 Samantha

She is a Filipino ancestry and I forget her.

00:46:46 Samantha

Her other side, but she's mestiza.

00:46:49 Samantha

And so it was this beautiful experience of realizing that like, I can listen to myself.

00:46:57 Samantha

And I'm I was like hearing her ancestors and.

00:47:03 Samantha

And delivering messages for her in sessions. And she was also helping me to, you know, go back in time with the shamanic healing work to, to, to see where I came from, like lifetimes from the lifetime perspective. And that's when I learned of that, passing away where all I was doing was.

00:47:16 Merrily

Hmm.

00:47:24 Samantha

Letting spirits come in and out of me all live long day and helping birth babies and.

00:47:26 Merrily

Yeah.

00:47:31 Samantha

Really being like a woman leader and.

00:47:34 Merrily

Yeah.

00:47:35 Samantha

Then.

00:47:36 Samantha

Bridging all of that into practice today, I've I still, you know, commute with the directions. There's still a huge part of.

00:47:45 Samantha

Everything that I do actually and not just isolated into the practice, she she showed me how to make offerings to the earth, and I've taken that and I've learned how to make offerings at the ancestral.

00:48:00 Samantha

Sir and I found other teachers along the way when she decided that she's done doing that kind of work, it really felt like it was just time for me to learn from her.

00:48:09 Merrily

Uh-huh.

00:48:14 Merrily

Yeah.

00:48:15 Samantha

And then yeah, it, it's just been this process of finding people that are speaking my language essentially that I feel like there's there's something there that we connect on. Personally, I'm not a I'm not somebody who'll just like, Google search things and just like, go with what's the most popular.

00:48:23 Merrily

Hmm.

00:48:35 Samantha

I like to. I like to let life bring them, bring these teachers and these books to me.

00:48:44 Samantha

Because I feel there's there's, like a richness to that experience that I I really long for in, in with the synchronicity and the timing of things.

00:48:50 Merrily

MHM.

00:48:59 Samantha

My practice at the ancestral altar, really, it's very LAX these days. I will say I'm not so heavy in in the like, I'm going to work with this work with, you know, so and so. And we're going to do this deep healing and they're going to teach me so much.

00:49:07 Merrily

MHM.

00:49:19 Samantha

Like recently I've had, I've been approached by, oh, she's my great Times 4 grandmother on on my mother's side.

00:49:19 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:49:28 Merrily

Wow, yeah.

00:49:31 Samantha

And she literally was just watching yellow jackets with me. I don't know if you watched that.

00:49:36 Merrily

TV show. Ohh no no.

00:49:37 Samantha

No. Yeah, it's like it's like, really witchy. And I won't get into it now, but she's literally just, like, watched TV with me. And she's and just watching TV.

00:49:40 Merrily

Oh.

00:49:49 Merrily

I love it.

00:49:52 Samantha

She's like, teaching me about power and she's teaching me about ruthlessness.

00:49:58 Merrily

Yes.

00:49:58 Samantha

And and it's a very different way, much more casual like casual. Yes, of of doing ancestral healing and learning from the ancestors than being so like, I guess, like, hard in yourself.

00:50:11 Merrily

Yeah.

00:50:17 Samantha

For it and.

00:50:18 Merrily

Yeah.

00:50:19 Samantha

That's yeah, that to to catch. Catch. Catch you up in in the present time. That's where I'm at right now with it. And I I love it. There's a lot of space spaciousness there.

00:50:30 Merrily

I love. I love being able to watch, you know, TV with your great, great, great, great.

00:50:41 Samantha

That is so great. Like, who wouldn't want to do that? You know what I mean? Like, that's lovely. And I love that. Yeah. Yeah, I will. I I also love that. Like, at this point, they're like choosing me like, I'm not, like calling, like, need someone for this thing. Like, I'm. I'm just living my life.

00:50:56 Merrily

Right.

00:51:01 Samantha

And and they're now like approaching me. And it's it's cool. It's really cool.

00:51:05 Merrily

Oh yeah, that's so cool. And I like that. You. Yeah. And I'm very much in agreement of, like.

00:51:11 Merrily

Because, you know, we're all busy people. We definitely want to make time for them, but it's like, you know, having to go through these like Instagram big, big time rituals, you know, like you don't you you can do that if you feel like inspired to do that and you just want to do it, you know, but most of the time, you know, it's like.

00:51:31 Merrily

Like you said, it's just they kind of come in.

00:51:34 Merrily

And you're like, oh hey.

00:51:36 Samantha

Right. And it's it's like most most of it now for me is like a matter of like turning towards them instead of just like pretending like they're not there. You know? That's. Yeah, you're like.

00:51:44 Merrily

Right, like.

00:51:49 Merrily

Oh, we're gonna, yeah. And then it sounds like you had just, like, a wonderful mentor and teacher to help guide you through sort of your own practice. And I think that's really wonderful. And also like Daniel's book and social medicine is such a good. It is intense, though, like the work that he does in there. It's like I did.

00:52:10 Merrily

One of my family likes and I was like.

00:52:13 Merrily

I don't know.

00:52:15 Merrily

Like maybe that's my lifetime. Maybe in this lifetime I just do the one.

00:52:19 Samantha

Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of crazy. That's.

00:52:23 Merrily

All, yeah, yeah.

00:52:24 Samantha

That's it.

00:52:28 Merrily

Either, but it is, you know, especially when you're removed from, you know, like at least if you know you're Filipino or like my family, we have this. All this estrangement energy in my family.

00:52:41 Merrily

So it just feels kind of lonely, right? You're just like this lonely soul going about in your family. But when you do this work and then you do like the one the ancestor that I wound up connecting with on my mother's mother's side was, like, deeply, deeply ancient. Like, she was, like, thousands of years old. And. Yeah. And I was like, but.

00:52:58 Samantha

Well.

00:53:01 Merrily

I know her energy. I was like.

00:53:03 Merrily

I know her like her energy exists in my mother and my sister and in me, like that sort of spark of that energy of who she is. And so I was like, I guess we're not that alone. You know what I mean? And we have, we have support that we can't see.

00:53:19 Merrily

You know, and how wonderful that it exists out there. If we just sort of like TuneIn and connect to it or ask for it, you know, or like, if they want to sit and watch TV with.

00:53:27 Samantha

Yeah.

00:53:29 Merrily

You or like? Yes, let's do it.

00:53:30 Samantha

Yeah, and I'm. I'm. I'm with you in the instrument energy.

00:53:35 Samantha

Because like I like, unless they listen to this podcast or or or they're like on, you know, like following on on my website or my my page and stuff like that. Like, my family doesn't know, right. Like my family doesn't know everything that's going on for, for.

00:53:35 Merrily

Yeah.

00:53:44 Merrily

Yeah.

00:53:53 Merrily

Us yeah, yes.

00:53:54 Samantha

It's it's in in.

00:53:57 Samantha

I used to have a lot of like frustration around that and a lot of like like y'all have no idea, you know.

00:53:59 Merrily

Oh, of course, yeah.

00:54:02 Merrily

Like I know like.

00:54:03 Merrily

All this work I'm doing.

00:54:06 Samantha

And it's. But I'm. But now at this point, like I I guess I want to share something really beautiful is that my dad is now like he's still, you know, in the church. And he's still himself. But now he's like, working on his mental health and he's.

00:54:21 Samantha

He's really being, like, gentle with himself and I really just feel like it. It does ripple whether we, you know that we tell them that we're doing this or.

00:54:23

Yeah.

00:54:27 Merrily

Of course, yeah.

00:54:31 Samantha

Not like, yeah.

00:54:32 Samantha

And and.

00:54:34 Samantha

And you what you put out, you know, we'll come back to you. Yeah. In no way. Yeah.

00:54:41 Merrily

Oh, that's so cool. I'm especially, you know, like I sometimes sometimes I get in the space of, like, man, once you're like, 50. That's it. Like, that's who you are. The rest of your life, right. You're never going to change. It seems like that sometimes. But that's so cool that your dad is like, you know, opening up and exploring and trying, you know.

00:55:00 Merrily

Trying to, you know, feel better. He feel good about himself, so that's great.

00:55:03 Samantha

Yeah.

00:55:05 Samantha

Yeah. And I'm. I'm glad this and this is like new, very fresh, very new too.

00:55:12 Merrily

Oh, that's so exciting. Ohh my goodness.

00:55:16 Merrily

I guess I do want to touch on sort of because you did mention your like past life stuff, is this it? Did this come through sort of doing the ancestral work as well, like sort of the same modality or?

00:55:22 Samantha

Yeah.

00:55:27 Samantha

Yeah. So it's it was like a few different things that that helped me bring that to my awareness.

00:55:35 Samantha

This it was that mentorship work with Rachel. And then there's this school also. And you can tell I'm, like, a huge nerd. All of this stuff. And like, whatever. Not it's not that whatever I can get my hands on, it's whatever's there that feels, that feels good for me to be involved with. Like, I love. There's the school.

00:55:53 Merrily

Yeah.

00:55:56 Samantha

Called the Sacred Way Mystery school.

00:55:59 Samantha

It was a woman, an indigenous. Her ancestry was Lakota and N so she started the school. It was in person in Colorado. I don't I I think it's still around, but not in the same way that it was when I was able to learn from them. We did a lot of trans.

00:56:18 Samantha

Journeying. Journeying so a lot of, and I probably shouldn't have been doing this at when I was doing.

00:56:26 Merrily

It ohh right.

00:56:27 Samantha

I I did.

00:56:28 Samantha

A lot of like leaving the body and and then going back into the body. So I spent about two years doing basically that was like the main modality that they taught was trance journeying.

00:56:30 Merrily

Right.

00:56:43 Samantha

And through that, piercing the mentorship and then transitioning into all these different realms.

00:56:51 Samantha

For all these different reasons, and then also the work with BPI, those three pieces really showed me, you know, this is how I'm running my energy from BPI.

00:56:58

MHM.

00:57:04 Samantha

Guy, this is who I'm engaging as.

00:57:08 Merrily

Right.

00:57:09 Samantha

In terms of the Transderm nearing.

00:57:12 Samantha

And then with the mentorship, it really was like the foundation for me to understand.

00:57:20 Samantha

What I was experiencing when I was doing mediumship when I because because you know when you have your aura set up in in a certain way, it wasn't my energy that was setting up that.

00:57:30 Merrily

MHM.

00:57:35 Samantha

Setting up my space, it was her.

00:57:39 Samantha

And So what helped me, I guess like the modal, I don't even know if it's a modality necessarily, but but I learned how to perform exorcism in the healing classes with PPI and.

00:57:56 Samantha

I would trade healings with other students with BPI and there came a certain point when I couldn't hold. I could not hold but.

00:58:08 Samantha

The.

00:58:11 Samantha

The repair work and the separation work between.

00:58:15 Samantha

This me and that past life. Me.

00:58:18 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:58:20 Samantha

Had to come in with the help of my ancestors, actually. So with the ancestors I was working with at the time, they.

00:58:32 Samantha

They actually were given the opportunity to get their **** together and and help me create that separation between that lifetime and this lifetime and being a medium.

00:58:45 Samantha

UM.

00:58:47 Samantha

So cutting cords.

00:58:51 Samantha

Working with my guides, working with my ancestors to help facilitate that, it has been a process also in therapy, who was able to have that kind of conversation with me, who was open to to that possibility that that's what was going on with me. And she allows me to.

00:59:12 Samantha

She, like, facilitate the conversation between that version of me and this me.

00:59:18 Samantha

To do the separation work, to do the cord cuttings to do all of the different modalities that needed to come in in order for me to.

00:59:29 Samantha

Have this nice setup that I have that that I am grateful to have now where I'm not just letting things come in and out all the time and I can have a conversation.

00:59:44 Samantha

And being communication versus being possessed basically right. Yeah. I I hope I answered your question.

00:59:52 Merrily

Yes, yeah, for sure. It sounds like, yeah, you're trying to commune with your sort of the past life that was very present that also formed those separations with them.

01:00:01 Samantha

Yeah, yeah.

01:00:06 Samantha

Yeah, I I think I think what was what I what I was doing in that was like I love it, feed my ego it. I felt so powerful to do it that way. I was like Oh my God, it was so.

01:00:18 Merrily

Of course.

01:00:25 Samantha

And and it made me. Yeah, it made me feel so powerful. But it also wasn't.

01:00:31 Samantha

It wasn't really getting me anywhere actually, you know, like I was just, like, tired and also kind of frustrated that not a lot of people, you know, the ego my, my ego was like nobody sees how powerful kind of being.

01:00:34 Merrily

Right.

01:00:51 Samantha

And and and it wasn't.

01:00:53 Samantha

I wasn't making any progress. I wasn't growing.

01:00:55 Samantha

In the way that that.

01:00:57 Samantha

I want wanted to grow. Yeah, I was.

01:00:59 Samantha

Doing it like that.

01:01:01 Merrily

Oh, that's so fascinating for sure.

01:01:04 Merrily

Yeah, you're kind of noticing you're, like, sort of spinning your wheels, right? Like, this is just. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's really hard. Maybe anything of all sorts of things. Have you ever seen, like?

01:01:18 Merrily

Because when we would.

01:01:19 Merrily

Do readings like similar to the Berkeley Psychic Institute, we would have people come in from the public.

01:01:24 Merrily

When you do like a healing clearing, I would see people like.

01:01:30 Merrily

I would see their aunt like their ancestors, come in and I would see them like superimposed on them. And it was like the message was like, oh, this person is like me, like it was like a reincarnation. Like, have you seen that?

01:01:43 Merrily

Yeah. And there's one guy who's, oh, go ahead.

01:01:43 Samantha

Well, that's.

01:01:45 Samantha

I mean, that's just literally what was going on.

01:01:47 Merrily

With.

01:01:47 Merrily

Oh my gosh, that is so crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But this one, he was actually a Filipino guy, a Filipino American. And I saw, like, this big Chieftain. And he was like on top of, like, you know, and I was like, I think you've reincarnated quite a few times down your family line, like, keep, see, because I kept, he kept changing, like like.

01:02:03 Samantha

Yeah.

01:02:07 Merrily

Time and he was like, really, because it's just like a weird thing, you know, it was just so weird. And I was like, that's what I'm being shown. Yeah. To, like, be, you know, like, you're you were an ancestor.

01:02:13 Samantha

To.

01:02:19 Merrily

Like you were your own great, great, great, great, great, great granddad. And that's weird, you know it is.

01:02:21 Samantha

Yeah.

01:02:23 Samantha

It's pretty weird. It is pretty weird. I actually I have a I have a theory about why that's like.

01:02:25 Merrily

Yeah.

01:02:31 Samantha

Why? That's like a thing with Filipino culture, actually. And. And you can tell me what you think about it, too. It's like, I think that's just how I I have this. I have this theory that there's something in the Filipino DNA that makes us so natural like it. It's so natural for us to be able to do that.

01:02:34 Merrily

Oh yeah, yeah.

01:02:46 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

01:02:52 Samantha

For some reason, yeah. I don't know why I I just. I just think that's how all the mediums.

01:02:57 Samantha

In in the culture have done it before and I think we're at a time right now where we're learning these tools and we're doing like ancestral care past life like you're like, you know, to to learn a different way.

01:03:12 Merrily

Yeah.

01:03:15 Samantha

That's not of. That's not of the culture actually, to to put it plainly.

01:03:18 Merrily

Yeah, yeah.

01:03:22 Merrily

Yeah. Ohh, that is so fascinating because I do think I do think you're very much on to something. And similarly I have there's this other.

01:03:33 Merrily

The gentleman that does a podcast, it's called the Spirit Box and it's Dara Mason. It's an amazing podcast. He's Irish.

01:03:41 Merrily

And he has come to the sort of the similar conclusion, but for like the Irish people, because similarly with like Irish people, there's a lot of psychic mediums very like, there's a lot of similar, there's too many. And I'm partners, like my dad is like part I.

01:03:59 Merrily

Yes.

01:04:00 Merrily

And so I'm like, I see way too many similarities between, like the Irish culture and the Filipino culture. And both, you know, were had colonialism imposed upon them, but they were still very tied to the land to the.

01:04:14 Merrily

Spirits.

01:04:15 Merrily

Spirits around them. And so that's what the struggle is.

01:04:20 Merrily

Living in the modern age with these sort of.

01:04:22 Merrily

Very easy abilities that come to, you know, just by being the D you know the DNA or the. Yeah. Yes, I do think. I do think it is.

01:04:32 Merrily

Like a thing?

01:04:36 Merrily

So that's fascinating that you're kind of seeing that as like part of like just sort of the.

01:04:43 Merrily

The blood and the DNA of who? The Who we are. That's really cool.

01:04:48 Merrily

So one question sort of before we kind of get into like how you help people and guide them is you call you know you have you know sort of the title of the ceremonial list. And so why do you think that ceremony is important to people?

01:05:06 Samantha

Yes.

01:05:07 Samantha

Yeah.

01:05:08 Samantha

I think it's.

01:05:12 Samantha

I think it's so ohh I think it's so.

01:05:19 Samantha

First of all, I think it's a very natural thing.

01:05:23 Samantha

And I think it's something that if you're an artist or if you're creative, you understand without even calling it ceremony, maybe.

01:05:30 Merrily

M.

01:05:32 Samantha

And.

01:05:33 Samantha

I think it's so important because.

01:05:36 Samantha

It's a way of expression.

01:05:41 Samantha

That we.

01:05:44 Samantha

I think our spirits are longing for and the the world today like they're ceremonies for everything, right? Like I think about when I was an organist in the church and how I was facilitating ceremony every Sunday, every Wednesday and and that it, you know, that is creating something that is.

01:05:47 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

01:06:05 Samantha

Honoring something, and maybe it's not something that that I would honor right now, but I think that we need time to.

01:06:19 Samantha

Look at what is happening and with ceremony. You really are carving out that time and space to be intentional with your actions, with your choices to honor something and.

01:06:37 Samantha

To and and have the opportunity to be with.

01:06:45 Samantha

Forces, energies, possibilities more powerful than than us here on Earth.

01:06:55 Samantha

And something that I think that we're all longing for is that.

01:07:00 Samantha

Sort of expression with each other, especially because something that.

01:07:05 Samantha

I.

01:07:07 Samantha

I just feel like in this in this lifetime, I'll be. I'll be learning from and and working towards this communal ritual and community spiritual practice in ways that aren't the Christian Church and in ways that are healthier and non dogmatic as best as possible.

01:07:26

Uh.

01:07:27 Samantha

Because we we whether we know it or not, you know there are people who know that we need this and there are people who have a feeling, maybe, but they're not quite sure what it is like.

01:07:37 Samantha

We we're all so.

01:07:39 Samantha

Hungry for this kind of connection with something bigger than us? And it's beyond. Just like thinking about it and praying to it. It's something that I think our bodies need. Yeah, that I think we are out of practice with.

01:07:55 Samantha

And it's something that we need as communities as well to gather around things that are more meaningful than UM.

01:08:06 Samantha

Then you know the things that we gather around today. Like I think right now what's coming to mind is like getting a drink at a bar. There's nothing wrong with that. You know, I serve, I serve. I serve libation to the ancestors. You.

01:08:14 Merrily

Right, right.

01:08:20 Merrily

Know.

01:08:21 Samantha

You know when they want it? There's nothing wrong with it, but I think that that amplifies something if if we we sent her ceremony or we sent her.

01:08:27 Merrily

Hmm.

01:08:33 Samantha

Focus around something that's not so meaningful to us. That's that's that has power too.

01:08:42 Samantha

But I think there's power.

01:08:45 Samantha

In the community and with people, when we remember ceremony as a powerful act.

01:08:54 Samantha

For what we want, not just what we are told to bring focus and reverence to, but saying like, we can create ceremony, we can have time and space.

01:09:09 Samantha

To honor and ask and desire and create or do you, you know, to destroy. There's there's that side too. What we want, what we think in, whether that's individually or together with each other.

01:09:19 Merrily

Yeah.

01:09:29 Samantha

I think that we it's a, it's a technology that we have.

01:09:33 Merrily

MHM.

01:09:36 Samantha

That we get to use, you know, like who we and I think we should, we should be using it.

01:09:37 Merrily

Yeah.

01:09:43 Merrily

Yeah.

01:09:43 Samantha

We need it.

01:09:45 Samantha

Honestly.

01:09:46 Merrily

Oh, that's so beautiful. And speaking. You think I'm gonna get this Bible quote, quote wrong people? I mean, but there's some. There's a quote that says.

01:09:54 Merrily

Like more than.

01:09:55 Merrily

And to gather in my name or something like God's saying like more than two gathered in my name. I am there or something like that and not, you know. And of course there's, like the church aspect. But if you think of God or whatever the, you know, the source or whatever, it's like that's that's amplified. It's more even more present. Right.

01:09:59 Samantha

mm-hmm

01:10:15 Merrily

The present as an individual, but it's even more present and I'm sure your experience, especially with meditation, if you meditate with a group of people.

01:10:18 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

01:10:24 Merrily

There is like palpable stuff going on.

01:10:28 Merrily

Like that happens.

01:10:29 Merrily

With with other people doing the same practice. So yeah, it's I love how you explained it so beautifully about ceremony and how we need it. So that's so thank you for sharing.

01:10:32 Samantha

Yeah.

01:10:40 Samantha

Thank. Yeah. Thank you for asking. I don't get to talk about it that much. It's really awesome.

01:10:42 Merrily

Yeah.

01:10:46 Merrily

Yeah.

01:10:47 Merrily

Yeah. Well, tell us how you kind of, you know, you do a lot of guide work with people and help folks along their path. Can you tell us a little bit about that so you know.

01:10:56 Samantha

Yeah. So I do free or healings on Friday afternoons. So every Friday afternoon, there's three spots available and ioffer, you know, I do the full oral healing and then we end with the next step.

01:11:02

Nice.

01:11:11 Samantha

With me that you can decide to to do if you want to or and next step without me. So you're left just you know.

01:11:20 Samantha

You're left feeling refreshed.

01:11:22 Merrily

Right, yeah.

01:11:23 Samantha

And you have choices. You you have things that you can work with beyond a space with me, which I think is I love and.

01:11:31 Samantha

As I believe is also important. As a practitioner, I am in the midst of restructuring my the metaphysical infrastructure of my my world, my business.

01:11:44 Samantha

But I will be opening up mentorship applications, private mentorship applications for people, and that's because I'm wanting to work long term with people to really go at a pace that's.

01:12:00 Samantha

Sustainable to meet people.

01:12:04 Samantha

And walk with people in a way that stewards A transformation that is lasting for a long time. I've been doing just like one off mediumship sessions and human design sessions.

01:12:18 Samantha

And I I by the time this podcast airs, I will no longer be offering them in the one-on-one one off way. But I will be offering a full service spiritual consult consultation where where I will bring in that modality, human design. I'll pull up your chart.

01:12:38 Samantha

If you want me to all the different kinds, then you know, we'll consult with your guides. Ancestors also run energy. I'll teach you what I know in that space and.

01:12:53 Samantha

That I guess the last thing I am doing a quarterly energy forecast this year. So by the time this airs, I would have just done Q2 and then Q3 will be next and then Q4 at the in October at the end of this year.

01:12:58 Merrily

Oh.

01:13:11 Merrily

Yeah, wow, very cool. I do love energy forecasts. It's very fun. So ohh.

01:13:19 Merrily

UM.

01:13:20 Merrily

Ohh goodness. Well gosh Sam, you've shared so much wisdom already and now I'm going to.

01:13:26 Merrily

Ask you to share some more.

01:13:28 Merrily

But do you have any words of wisdom that you would like to share and leave us with today?

01:13:35 Samantha

UM.

01:13:38 Samantha

When in doubt, go to the earth.

01:13:43 Samantha

When in doubt.

01:13:45 Samantha

Go with it. There's so much information available about ancestral healing and spirituality, but the most wise guy that you can have is yourself.

01:14:03 Samantha

And the one I believe that I think does not get enough credit is the Earth herself. And so in any space, I will always direct you back to her because when you learn how to listen, you have everything you need.

01:14:20 Samantha

And I am.

01:14:24 Samantha

And it's it's simpler, it's simpler than you might think.

01:14:28 Merrily

Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Wonderful things to leave with. Yes, I totally agree. Mother earth. She is so smart. And she has so much to offer. And.

01:14:37 Samantha

She's so rich.

01:14:38 Merrily

She's so rich. She's so patient. She receives all of the things and makes them bright and shiny again, like she's great. My goodness. Well, thank you, Sam, for giving us so much time of your time. And like, I'm so happy that we got connected. And thank you. Thank you. Thank you to Emma.

01:14:59 Merrily

And thank you. Thank you. Thank you to CFS.

01:15:02 Samantha

Yeah. Thank. Thank you, Mary Lee. This was so fun to be in your casual temple.

01:15:08 Merrily

Yes, I hope it was casual for you. Yeah, I guess if you want to call that deep dive cash. I know it's that's how we learn people people in.

01:15:15

Yeah.

01:15:21 Samantha

Yeah, really gonna be chill. Be chill. Just just go. Just. Yeah.

01:15:26 Merrily

My goodness. Well, thank you so much.

01:15:31 Merrily

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EPISODE 53 - Samantha Nacman

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