Casual Temple

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00:00:06 Merrily

Welcome to casual Temple episode 57, and I'm your host, Merrily Duffy at Casual Temple. Our mission is to discover our connection to the unseen world of spirit, and how that empowers us to know our true selves once to support our journey, subscribe and leave a star review on your favorite podcast platform you love hearing from you. So visit casualtemple.com to share your thoughts.

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Today I got to interview a dream guest. The Absolutely Fabulous Laurie.

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List author ritualist and spiritual seeker with a story unlike any other from a life changing love that began through a prison wall to walking a deeply personal path of magic, miracles and transformation, Laurie shares a journey of faith and magic that will leave you inspired. We'll talk about the power of ritual in dark times, how miracles actually do happen. What prosperity.

00:00:50 Merrily

Really means in the magical life and the wisdom found in silence, spirit and a simple daily practice. Here's your invitation to remember that magic is real. Your words shape your world, and healing starts with your mind. Join us on the casual temple as we follow the current with Lori.

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Davis.

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Welcome back to the casual.

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Today, I'm absolutely thrilled to introduce our guest, Lori Davis, who is an author spiritual seeker and dedicated magical practitioner known for her unique blend of intuition, ritual and resilience. Laurie brings a voice of authenticity, personal depth.

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And I for the sacred, she is a blessing to the world of modern mysticism. Full stop. Laurie is known for her deeply personal story of love, justice and spiritual awakening, which she has shared openly through both her writing and her presence in the magical community.

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80 on an average day, Lori is an ardent explorer of her inner landscapes.

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Of the soul.

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Advocating for truth and transformation or guiding others in their own spiritual practices, she is a light for those walking the path of the soul. Laurie, I am so beyond happy to have you on the casual tempo.

00:01:58 Lorri

Ohh Marley, you're so kind in that introduction. I'm just like, wow. I Oh my goodness, I wish I could be that person.

00:02:08 Merrily

You are that person just to break it.

00:02:13 Lorri

Well, I'm honored to be here with you and thank you so much for having me.

00:02:17 Merrily

Of course. Oh my gosh, yes. And so I let everybody know how you and I got connected. So about a year ago, I think it was about a year ago, maybe a little over a year. Damian Damian said something about Lori is putting together women's group or something.

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On her page, on your Patreon.

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And I was.

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Like, oh, that's exactly what I was looking for. Literally like weeks before I was like, I really want to talk to a bunch of women this practice because I feel like we do it a little differently than the men who I love in my life that are are magical practitioners.

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And yeah, so you put that group together, called the currents, and there's a bunch of really cool, really awesome female practitioners in that.

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So and you guide us so well on our journey and I swear every time we meet what the topic that you're going to talk about is literally what is going on in my life and I.

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Know I'm not alone.

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In that group because it's like that's what's happening.

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No.

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So yeah. So thank you so much for putting that together. And yeah, it's it's been so.

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Right.

00:03:26 Lorri

Well, uh, the food, it's been great for me too. It's been such, you know, and that's that was exactly how it came to be was I was at Damien and Derek, their school of magic. Magnum Opus has a retreat every fall and.

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Fall before last, I began talking with some women who were there and we were talking about.

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The fact that.

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I mean, women and men do magic differently and or or even we're we're just different. We think differently. We just the way that we go about life differently and one of them suggested that, you know, maybe should do lemons. And I was, yeah. First.

00:04:15 Lorri

I'm I'm a very I've been in in the public a lot in my life just because of the work I did on Damien's case. But I'm not a real I'm not a person who's really out there. I will be behind the scenes all the time, even doing a podcast is usually a.

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A big deal for me, so to do this I get nervous every month. I'm so nervous.

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But the woman?

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In this group and I have to.

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Tell you merrily.

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You are. I don't know if you know.

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This or if you.

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Feel it, but you are like my person. I go to like I'll look at you and I'll see that. I'll see you. Like you'll be laughing at something or you'll be nodding your head or you'll be smiling.

00:04:56 Lorri

It's like I'm I check in with you all the time. So thank you for being that Touchstone and for calm me down and I feel like we're on it. We're we're on a good like, I don't know, we're rolling along and doing well. I I love checking in with you. So thank you.

00:05:13 Merrily

Oh, well, thank you. Yeah, thank you for that comp. Yes, I, you know, I listen for, you know, part of what I do like do a lot of active listening and my full time job during the day and has a lot of active listening. So yeah. So I like to be, you know, very.

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Present with people. So thank you for that compliment that's so great.

00:05:34 Merrily

Oh my goodness. Well, we kind of just start at the beginning. Whatever you consider the beginning of, you know, you can even go back. Some people go back to when they were a baby or even in the womb. I don't even know if you want to go back that far but like wherever.

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You consider the.

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Beginning of sort of your.

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Interactions with spirit or the other world and like what's going on there.

00:05:58 Lorri

Yeah, I would say the big for me when I started to be aware of it, my parents.

00:06:06 Lorri

I grew up in West Virginia and my parents are very country folk. They're they're dear people. But you know another they're, you know, that it's another generation as every you know, every every.

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Everyone's parents is another generation of doing things, but they started going to church when I.

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Was about 6.

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And they chose a Missionary Baptist Church, which is an extreme fundamentalism and.

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And.

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So I'm going to church. I suddenly, as I'm going to church every Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, and then revivals will be like all week long. And these are this holy rollers. That's what we're talking about here.

00:06:52 Lorri

I don't know if you know it's like, you know, people scream like, like, scream all that. And so it was to rock this. And I I actually really am grateful for it now because it's being in a.

00:07:06 Lorri

A community that's least feeling something spiritually. And while the teachings didn't really resonate with me then, and they don't resonate with me now, at least I had a foundation. And what that foundation provided me was the belief in miracles, and that has been.

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Really, the thread that has gone through my life?

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Is when I was about 8.

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Uh, just.

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Like my dog disappeared and I had heard, you know.

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Prayer, described as, imagine what you want, pray about it and have faith, basically. And so that's what I started doing and and really it magically. My dog reappeared exactly as I imagined him doing after about four weeks of him being gone and everyone else thinking he was dead or someone had stolen them or whatever.

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And from that moment on, I I knew. I just knew that that.

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The Earth was a magical place to be. That God existed, and the connection between us and God while then.

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Was just still, you know, had a long way to go, but from there I it was always it was just always searching. I just feel like I've been a person who's always been searching for the place where the people or the next thing very motivated.

00:08:33 Lorri

To leave the place I grew up and explore the world, and so did the.

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Yeah.

00:08:40 Lorri

And I moved over to. I went to university, for I went to university and studied landscape architecture. And then I moved to England for a little while to study estate design and ended up in New York City. And during the time I was in New York, I kind of lost touch with the spirit.

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Spiritual that will just well for with God, I I still.

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Realized.

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That there were so many synchronicities happening in my life, and I recognize those. But I was amongst people who weren't believers or who were not spiritually driven. And I just kind of fell out for a little while.

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Until I met my husband, who I well, I'm also a love, love, love movies. And it's interesting because movies were a big part of my they're a big part of.

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My spiritual practice.

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Because I get.

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A lot of messages through film and.

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Through stories and so being in New York, I sometimes I see 8 movies a week in the theater. Yeah, well, that also meant that I was sneaking out of.

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Work and doing stuff.

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I probably shouldn't have been doing that. I met my well, I should say I met him, but I discovered my husband.

00:10:01 Lorri

You're a documentary called Paradise Lost that I saw at a film series at MoMA, and that was the turning point because Damien is and has always been a a spiritual seeker.

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And I started right. He's on. He was on death row at the time.

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And I started writing to him, and it wasn't like I was writing.

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Like I didn't.

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I just wrote him and.

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Asked.

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What can I do to help? Because everyone in the theater we, you know, the talk after the after the movie, this was 1996.

00:10:40 Lorri

And everyone in the after the film, when we were having discussion is clear that they that they he was innocent and the other two men or young young men at that time.

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That had been convicted were innocent too, and it ended up being a huge movement that, you know, and international movement. They were called the West Memphis 3.

00:11:03 Lorri

Anyway, I wrote to him to see what I could do to help ended up in a correspondence with him and then next thing I know, I was married to him and living living in Arkansas.

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And building a legal team, which I did for the next 15 years.

00:11:20 Lorri

Yeah, from 1996 to 2011 when he got out. But during that time.

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That I was in Arkansas working on his case.

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Damon and I, that's that was the foundation of my my life now and and.

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I study he was studying Buddhism at the time and and I started sitting as I was in and then.

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He returned to his first love, which is ceremonial magic, and started studying that, and then he was teaching me and.

00:11:56 Lorri

Then we really do it. I mean, truly very grateful to all the people you merely included that supported us during that time, which I didn't even know that till we just started talking. But I'm still a little wonderfully blown away by that.

00:12:16 Lorri

But it it I honestly believe it was through prayer and through ritual that Damien got out of prison. And you know, when you talk about all the people who help, that's a part of it. That's a part of the Divine Plan, the people and the situations and the way that everything has to line up. So.

00:12:27 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:12:36 Lorri

That and then.

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From there I mean it's every story has its ups and downs and he gets out and we fall into.

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Like just trauma and a lot of things that we just didn't know how to handle, like media tours and celebrity not, you know, in that celebrity world, not saying that we were celebrities, but there were a lot of celebrities around us and a lot of.

00:13:03 Lorri

You know, book tours and movie tours, and that is is a world that's very frightening to me. I lost you lose yourself and you people say that all the time.

00:13:13 Speaker 3

Right.

00:13:13 Lorri

But.

00:13:14 Lorri

You do. You don't know.

00:13:18 Lorri

You don't know what? What your. I didn't know what I was supposed to be doing. And in the midst of it, Damien is failing miserably. And I am. I'm and I didn't know how to take care of him. He.

00:13:27 Lorri

Should have.

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Had professional help and he didn't. And So what? Like 2-2 nervous breakdowns later? And then we had fallen into.

00:13:39 Lorri

Complete like just hit, we hit rock bottom like in 2016 and.

00:13:45 Lorri

Or 17 probably.

00:13:48 Lorri

Maybe it's like sometimes somewhere around there, you know, suicidal, financially, had $200.00 left, living in New York City. That's not going to go very far. And and then I, you know, I'll talk a little bit more about that later. But one thing led to another and we left.

00:14:08 Lorri

New York.

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We moved to New Orleans for a little bit and now we're living here in the Hudson Valley, and that's kind of like as condensed, I think, as I can.

00:14:17 Lorri

Make it.

00:14:19 Merrily

That's pretty good. That is really good. Yeah. You obviously know how to tell your story.

00:14:22 Merrily

Because it's like.

00:14:25 Lorri

Flight flight. It's a lot.

00:14:28 Merrily

Oh gosh. Well, I'm going to have a question that I'm going to kind of roll back because there's something you're talking about those specific churches you went to and sort of miracles, did you? I'm assuming you observed miracles in that church too, right?

00:14:43 Lorri

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, not so much. Like they didn't do healing or thing like that kind of thing, but it was more like you would see someone praying for a family member who was, you know, and then suddenly they would appear and the and the the radical change in their life.

00:14:49 Merrily

Oh, right.

00:15:03 Lorri

That come about those kinds of things.

00:15:03 Merrily

Hmm.

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And also just the feeling sometimes of someone being baptized or but no, we weren't like snake handlers, although really, which we would have been that would.

00:15:13 Merrily

All right, right. You're like, I kind of would have been up for this.

00:15:16 Lorri

Have been.

00:15:20 Lorri

It is actually.

00:15:22 Merrily

That would have been kind of cool. Yeah. Because the way you describe the church, I think one of the churches I went to was very similar for a short time, my dad kind.

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Of experimented with.

00:15:33 Merrily

Some different churches, but yeah, even though like overall like percentage wise, it's definitely not a path for me.

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And I do have a lot of critiques about it.

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But there were things there that, like, observed right where I was like, huh. Interesting. Like, there are sort of miracles or prayers that are happening for people, and I can't discount that. Right like that. There's something going on there.

00:15:57 Lorri

Right. Did you see? Did you see?

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Miracles like.

00:16:01 Merrily

Yeah, I would see the same things sort of like prayer like prayers or people, you know that we would prayer for, pray for healing, for other people that were in sort of dire situations or. Yeah, you would sort of see the same thing. So you know, so that always stuck with me. And and similarly while I don't follow that like a religious path, it is like.

00:16:09 Lorri

Yeah.

00:16:21 Merrily

You know, I am grateful for those experiences. So weird.

00:16:25 Lorri

Absolutely. And it's also like, like I said, it's just very like.

00:16:28 Speaker 3

Yes.

00:16:31 Lorri

Kind of strange little foundation that you can build upon. Where did you grow up?

00:16:36 Merrily

Oh, gosh. Well, let me. So the the time period I'm talking about is like Phoenix, AZ from when. Let's see ages like 5 to 12 or something like that.

00:16:43 Lorri

Yeah.

00:16:49 Merrily

And there was a church there. It's still there because I checked in on it and it's called the truth Tabernacle.

00:16:55 Merrily

And it was like a weird I don't remember what denomination is and I I think I looked it up recently. What denomination it was and it's like more of a patriarchal I don't know, fundamentalist church. It was really weird. They made all the women like.

00:17:12 Merrily

Put their hair back and, like, wear long sleeves and I was like what, you know, cause my parents were permissive and like, let us run wild.

00:17:23 Merrily

Like and, they're just like, what is this?

00:17:28 Merrily

Oh my gosh. Yeah. So basically, yeah, Phoenix, AZ for a time. But then we moved to Washington after that. And yeah, Washington's more my speed, I think even weather.

00:17:40 Lorri

Wise. So yeah, Washington's great.

00:17:43 Merrily

Oh yeah. Oh, gosh, yeah. There's so many things that you mentioned.

00:17:48 Speaker 3

UM.

00:17:49 Merrily

So you did mention that you had some support and guidance sort of during your path, and I know Damian's mentioned that too. He had different teachers coming in. Did you have other people that would come and help you specifically?

00:18:02 Lorri

It was more for me teachers that I that I would find through books.

00:18:09 Lorri

Or it's funny?

00:18:13 Lorri

Though one that was kind of pivotal for me, I used to David and I both listened to Joel Osteen all the time, and we watched him. I love Joel Osteen and.

00:18:20 Speaker 3

Oh yeah, yes.

00:18:25 Lorri

But we would watch him while Damien was in prison. So after he got out, we were living.

00:18:31 Lorri

It's like one of those this. This is some of the things that happened to us. So we were living and there's.

00:18:38 Lorri

Apartment building on the on Central Park Park West called the Beresford and, and I think that's the if I'm not mistaken. That's the one Ghostbusters family with the towers.

00:18:50 Speaker 3

Ohh right.

00:18:52 Lorri

One of the women who helped us with the case, she was.

00:18:57 Lorri

She's like she was like the vice president of Sony Music I.

00:19:00 Lorri

Mean that's.

00:19:02 Speaker 3

Wow.

00:19:04 Lorri

Like one of the most powerful people in the music world, right? And we're living with her. She had two apartments in that building, and she invited us to live with her because we didn't have a place to live for a little while. So we lived with her for about, I don't know, four months or six months. I mean, it was a while. And one day I was watching Joe.

00:19:23 Lorri

And she walks in. And I'm thinking, you know, what do you know? What do you want? She's like, you watched Joe was saying. And I'm like, yeah, she can hold on a second. So she leaves and she comes back with all these books and the books were Catherine Ponder and Emma Fox.

00:19:42 Lorri

And I think.

00:19:44 Lorri

Not Florence Scoville Shan. She introduced me to her later.

00:19:48 Lorri

She said these are my teachers, Laurie, she says. And you know, I know Damien does, you know, magic. But I do. I've done magic. That's where how I've gotten to where I am in my career.

00:19:59 Lorri

And I was.

00:19:59 Lorri

Just like you just never know, right? What? Anyone. And so I started studying Catherine Ponder. So you're.

00:20:02 Speaker 3

Ah.

00:20:07 Lorri

Ask your question. My teachers are most of them are deceased but have left behind their books and their messages. And but once again, here's this woman.

00:20:19 Lorri

Who? You know, she actually showed up and she's still a good friend of mine and has been helpful in a lot of other ways. So Damien has had a lot of teachers that he's actually had, you know, been on Earth with, but might have.

00:20:33 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:20:34 Lorri

Yeah, but I would, you know, and I'd say Joel is a good teacher for me too.

00:20:38

Hmm.

00:20:39 Merrily

Yeah, I think that's kind of usual. A lot of the guests I talk with, they also say, yeah, my teachers tend to be deceased and in books and I get that too, I think I'm. I'm kind of both because I do love reading. I just it's different immersive process reading. I feel like and then having a person.

00:20:47 Merrily

Yep.

00:20:57

Yeah.

00:20:59 Merrily

But I do love interactions, but I feel like you're also, like dealing with the everyday person, right, if that makes.

00:21:06 Merrily

Sense, you know, I mean.

00:21:06

Yes.

00:21:07 Merrily

Like and also the their teaching. So you have to like balance.

00:21:11 Merrily

Those two things.

00:21:13 Lorri

And I look at the current as now huge teacher to me and I I'm in in the current, I am blown away every month when.

00:21:21 Speaker 3

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

00:21:22 Lorri

When we talk and I get to learn so many different points of view and and about it that to me.

00:21:31 Lorri

So I'd say that's been a huge teacher to me.

00:21:34 Merrily

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, because it's everybody has such wise things to say all the time. It's a yeah, it's great. I.

00:21:40 Merrily

Love it? Yeah.

00:21:43 Merrily

Yeah. Gosh, yeah. One of the things that I think you mentioned.

00:21:49 Merrily

2 was this the Seth books? At one point? Those, and then literally.

00:21:52 Lorri

Yes.

00:21:55 Merrily

See like a week ago I was like, I have like some weird. I haven't listened to any of my audible like any of my audio books in a.

00:22:02 Merrily

Long time and.

00:22:03 Merrily

I was like, I feel like going for walks and listening to audiobooks and then like, one of them came up and it was like the Jane one of the Jane Roberts. And it was like.

00:22:15 Merrily

Personal oh shoot.

00:22:16 Merrily

I can't remember, but it just talks about sort of personal.

00:22:20 Merrily

Well, like identity or something like building your own personal universe essentially is what The thing is. And very fascinating stuff in there too, yeah.

00:22:30 Lorri

Ohh absolutely. And I took this year. This year has been an interesting year for me. Very quiet, but I started listening to. I was listening to the Abraham. You know Abraham. So there was one of their books and I listened to it over and over probably 30 times.

00:22:41 Speaker 3

Oh yeah.

00:22:49 Speaker 3

Oh yeah.

00:22:50 Lorri

Because I want, I would just end and I've started again because I felt I so resonated with the message and it and it's simple. It's not simple to do.

00:23:00 Lorri

Too, but it's a pretty simple message, and so I really wanted it down in my spirit. So I love. I might now that you brought that up, I think I might do it with the Seth I.

00:23:09 Lorri

Love the Seth. I love those.

00:23:12 Lorri

The I love channel messages and that whole well, it's been going on forever.

00:23:15 Merrily

Oh my gosh, forever. Even the the. Who is it? The Oracle Delphi. That whole situation is a channelled situation.

00:23:21 Lorri

Yes, yes, absolutely. On the Bible, I mean.

00:23:26 Merrily

Yes.

00:23:28 Merrily

Ohh it was like, what the heck's going on? Yeah, the the writings of the Bible is channel basically channeled. Yeah.

00:23:34 Lorri

There is some. There's something so special about the the Sixties, 70s and 80s when course Jesus, course of miracles and then Seth and Abraham Channel through women, which I love, that that that was like a tiny little time capsule.

00:23:53 Lorri

Wonderfulness.

00:23:55 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:23:56 Merrily

Yeah. Channel, yeah. Channel messages. Like, I feel like for me, I'm just gonna share personally. It's a little hard to wrap your brain around. Right. And but that's literally your brain. And like, you know what I mean? And it's like, what doesn't make any sense. But, you know, I've had people in my. Even my husband had a situation. I don't think I shared those, but.

00:24:16 Merrily

Was to say he had a situation when he had a slumber party right as a teenage boy. Yeah. And with the same it was him and the same two boys and one of the boys in the middle of the night would wake up and start speaking in another voice.

00:24:30 Merrily

And then the other two boys would wake up.

00:24:32 Merrily

And they were like.

00:24:32

What's going?

00:24:34 Lorri

Ohh wow.

00:24:35 Merrily

Yeah. And they even actually recorded it. But somehow the the tapes aren't don't exist anymore. But it happened many times when they would all like slumber party. So it was really interesting that it would have to be the same boys. And I literally just in the jeans the the particular Seth book I'm listening to.

00:24:55 Merrily

Like he said, something about that. He said that I think it's like.

00:25:00 Merrily

Death is a combination of Jane and then the husband. There's something going on there.

00:25:05 Lorri

Would you would.

00:25:06 Lorri

You text me the the one you're listening to. OK. OK.

00:25:08 Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:11 Merrily

Yeah. So, so I I can't you know. So initially where I'm like why but am I. But it happened to my husband, you know.

00:25:16 Merrily

What I mean like it happened so like.

00:25:17 Lorri

Yeah, yeah.

00:25:20 Lorri

I I know it's so it's so the whole. Yeah, I know. And it's hard to. It's hard to tell people, you know, we will when you're trying to and they're looking at you like ohh this.

00:25:29 Merrily

Yeah, well, yeah.

00:25:35 Merrily

Yeah, sounds totally logical, lady. Yeah, but I might put the messages. People. That's like what's important is like what they're saying.

00:25:43 Lorri

Yeah, I like that. Really. It really. And then and then you keep digging yourself in deeper and deeper.

00:25:48 Merrily

And they're just like, oh, man, let's talk about, like, I don't know, Breaking Bad. I don't know. Let's talk about something.

00:25:57 Merrily

Ohh my gosh, that's so funny.

00:26:00 Merrily

Yeah. Well, yeah, thanks for uh, going down the Seth Rd. with me because I do like I was, like, fascinated in the last week just listening to that stuff.

00:26:09 Lorri

It's so it's so fascinating. Ohh my gosh. Are you listening to like, are you hearing? Is it Jane's voice?

00:26:16 Merrily

It is.

00:26:16 Lorri

Well, that's voice through Jane, OK?

00:26:18 Merrily

Yeah. So it's through the audiobooks. So they have, like, somebody doing, Seth, somebody doing, somebody doing. Robert, I think, Robert, I'm getting all their names.

00:26:22 Lorri

OK, OK.

00:26:26 Speaker 3

Mixed up, but yeah.

00:26:27 Lorri

Yeah, you're right. That's because I have. I actually found a video. Have you looked up the video of her?

00:26:34 Speaker 3

No. What? Oh my God. OK.

00:26:38 Lorri

Yeah. Yeah, it's very spooky when you see it. Like you can see Esther Hicks. There's many, you know, videos of her of Abraham.

00:26:46 Lorri

Speaking to her and and actually hearing her, but there.

00:26:48 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:26:50

There.

00:26:51 Lorri

There's I just got.

00:26:52 Lorri

There, there's video of Jane. It's very grainy and black and white, but it's very, very interesting.

00:26:58 Merrily

OK. Yeah, look at that.

00:26:59 Lorri

Spooky. The voice is very spooky.

00:27:02 Merrily

Yeah. Yeah. So weird. Yeah, but so fascinating. I love all these, like, little pieces that show us that, you know, that everything is way more complicated, but also kind of simple, but way more complicated than we we understand. And it's fascinating.

00:27:17 Lorri

I I know, yeah.

00:27:21 Merrily

Well, gosh, so so many things to talk about. So what, so I know.

00:27:25 Lorri

I know.

00:27:29 Merrily

So what exactly? So what did you start practicing? Say when you did start your magical practice with Jamie and like, was it with Damien specifically or did he give you some books or something and you kind of went off and?

00:27:40 Merrily

Did your own thing, like how did that?

00:27:42 Lorri

I think it was more well, our whole relationship was kind of a practice because he.

00:27:48 Merrily

Oh great.

00:27:50 Lorri

Meeting him to me was so everything that happened between us was so miraculous, and it brought me back to that realization of of talk about that the reason I called the current the current is because I do think you know that current of magic runs through everyone's life. They're in particular.

00:27:56 Speaker 3

Right.

00:28:08 Lorri

Current and you can feel it. You know, when it's when it's happening and our relationship was just huge in that way, you know.

00:28:15 Lorri

Just.

00:28:16 Lorri

Writing to each other and I I kind of just left, you know, normal life for a long time. I was checked out of everything.

00:28:27 Lorri

During the time when we first started riding to one another and.

00:28:34 Lorri

You know, I it's hard to explain. I couldn't concentrate on anything. I was just so wrapped up in our getting to know each other, writing to it and and we were just like, write all day long, these massive letters that we would 1618 page letters we'd send every day and.

00:28:53 Lorri

And so for the 1st and it's almost feverish, you know, you're just kind of like, so, you know, and that's that. And that's not even getting into like, sex or anything. It's just our minds and yeah.

00:28:56 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:29:04 Merrily

Right. Like, yeah.

00:29:07 Lorri

And and so things would happen like we would write to each other, and then the same thing would come in a letter the next day, you know.

00:29:16 Lorri

That kind of know that you were.

00:29:19 Lorri

Tapped into something fire then.

00:29:24 Lorri

You know the material world, so.

00:29:27 Lorri

I think our relationship was really what kicked it off for me and I realize that there is just so much, so much gold to be dug here and there was, but I think it was he would always kind of take the lead, you know, like he would start studying with someone or, you know, like as like I said before he started.

00:29:48 Lorri

With a started with Buddhism and so then I started sitting and then he went back to magic and started to and then there was a time where our paths kind of.

00:30:00 Lorri

I my practice is so different from his, you know, I I found my way after he got out and I started realizing that, you know, ceremonial magic was not. Even though I I I a lot of it is, is in my in what I do lots of ritual work. Lots of work with archangels.

00:30:18 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:30:21 Lorri

I basically just took the things that worked for me, then made a hybrid of my own practice that that is more very much as as I guess.

00:30:35 Lorri

I don't even know what what I would call it to be honest.

00:30:39 Merrily

Right. Yeah, exactly.

00:30:39 Lorri

Match like a lot of different things.

00:30:42 Speaker 3

Yeah. Yeah. Ohh gosh.

00:30:45 Lorri

Does your husband does he have a spiritual practice?

00:30:50 Merrily

I would say.

00:30:52 Merrily

Kind of not like.

00:30:54 Merrily

I mean, as far as not really like as far as.

00:30:57

Yeah.

00:30:58 Merrily

But he had, like I've been doing, I do planetary rituals every day. And so I do something with that particular planet, that particular day. And he's been joining me for the last year on those, which is cool. And then, like, he's already, he's seen some, like, pretty amazing thing. I was like, you just wait, like, right.

00:31:18 Merrily

If you ask and I think the other thing too.

00:31:20 Merrily

Is like.

00:31:21 Merrily

Some people get a little shy about asking for things.

00:31:24 Merrily

I don't know why because I'm not shy.

00:31:26 Merrily

Of asking at all.

00:31:27 Lorri

I'm not either.

00:31:29 Merrily

I need this please I need this to happen.

00:31:32

OK.

00:31:33 Merrily

But yeah, he asked for a very specific thing and he it was so funny because he asked Aries, right? The God of Mars, Mars. And he asked very specific thing. It's really weird. I won't explain what The thing is otherwise I would.

00:31:49 Merrily

And he said if I do it, I'm going to make Mars a pizza because he makes pizzas all.

00:31:53 Merrily

Loves pizza and he was like, I want to make Mars a a whole pizza if if this thing comes through and it and it did. And so it's like like this. Yes. And it was like he made this special and he couldn't eat it, right. He eat that pizza but he made it all special. I was like.

00:32:03 Lorri

If she did.

00:32:08 Lorri

oh

00:32:13 Lorri

And that's such a wonderful story. It's very cute. Oh, my God, see.

00:32:16 Merrily

It was.

00:32:19 Lorri

You can't go back like you can't.

00:32:20 Merrily

No, you can't cause it's like I can't deny that. How do you deny this very specific thing that he asked for, which nobody really would know about? And it happened for him.

00:32:31 Merrily

You know, and that's with any of our lives. You're like, there's for me. It's always about timing.

00:32:38 Merrily

Because it's like I asked for this thing and then something happened. Like I can't like this has never happened in my life, like, you know, but within minutes, something that I asked for occurred so.

00:32:38 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:32:44

Right, yeah.

00:32:48

Yeah.

00:32:50 Lorri

I know.

00:32:52 Lorri

I know, yeah.

00:32:54 Lorri

And it's and it never. And it never like gets.

00:32:59 Lorri

Like even though I know it's going to happen, even I know it's gonna. And when it does happen, it never grows old. It's it's single time. It's just like, you know. Yeah.

00:33:02 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:33:05

No.

00:33:11 Merrily

And I do think with that.

00:33:15 Merrily

I do think This is why I feel I kind of want everybody to experience it at some level because it's hard to explain to somebody who hasn't had that or they haven't perceived it. I'm sure it's happened to them.

00:33:28 Merrily

But they haven't internalized it and said yes, this has happened to me. It's hard to like talk to somebody because then like, you feel like.

00:33:33 Merrily

The crazy person, right?

00:33:35 Merrily

You're talking. Just try to explain it, but when somebody has had something, they're like, uh-huh. Yep, 100%. Yes, because.

00:33:43

Yes.

00:33:43

Yeah.

00:33:44 Merrily

Yeah, it's real at that point real.

00:33:45

Yeah. Which is where I was.

00:33:49 Lorri

Kind of. You know, I was happy, even though it's very it. It waters everything down and it became and. But I really was glad when that.

00:33:56 Lorri

I think was a documentary in a book called The.

00:33:58 Lorri

Secret. Oh yes.

00:34:00 Lorri

Came out, which is actually the is the foundation of Abraham's teachings, but they it it ended up. That was a whole thing but.

00:34:00 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:34:10 Lorri

But it it enable people who know who, who not not who, who, not necessarily believed in anything other than what they can see, right.

00:34:21 Lorri

See that how powerful they could be. And I love that. I like that. That was something that was more.

00:34:28 Lorri

Accessible.

00:34:29 Speaker 3

Hmm. Yeah, yeah.

00:34:32 Merrily

Yeah, I yeah, I agree. I'm all about everybody experiencing it. I don't care what how you do it. I just think it's you're going to be so jazzed. It's so exciting. However, you do it. Like, let's do it, people. Yeah.

00:34:41 Lorri

Ohh I know.

00:34:44

Yeah.

00:34:48 Lorri

Yeah. Start with a cup of coffee. See how quickly it comes.

00:34:51 Speaker 3

Yeah. Ohh my gosh.

00:34:55 Merrily

Yeah. And I like that you brought up the secret because, you know, obviously a lot of that gets a lot of get, a lot of trash talk for whatever the reasons are.

00:35:03 Merrily

But yeah, I think it was a really good end for a lot of people.

00:35:06 Merrily

To kind of open their eyes.

00:35:07 Lorri

I think so too, and for that reason alone, I'm glad it.

00:35:09 Lorri

Exists. Yeah, too.

00:35:12 Speaker 3

Oh goodness.

00:35:15 Merrily

Well, I had this question and so you may have already answered it, but I'm going to ask ask it anyway. Was there a particular moment that deep that made you, like, deepened your commitment to this particular path where you?

00:35:29 Merrily

Like I can't not go back and.

00:35:34 Lorri

Absolutely. And and I didn't mention it. It was when.

00:35:38 Lorri

And I'll just.

00:35:39 Lorri

Talk about myself, Danny, and had another, you know, his experience was different from mine. But I after everything that we've been through, I really did hit rock bottom and.

00:35:49 Lorri

The late in the late, like somewhere around 2017. Eighteen. I just couldn't no longer function as a as a human being. And I I didn't want to live anymore. And I I hope no one listening to this has ever been.

00:36:05 Lorri

To this point, but you it's.

00:36:08 Lorri

It's an extremely unfortunately it you you just know it when you get there. There's no doubt about it. There's just no doubt. And I had gotten there and I'm so grateful to.

00:36:22 Lorri

Sorry, you hear? I've heard, but I'm so grateful for.

00:36:28 Lorri

My cat because I was in bed getting and whatever, and my cat jumped on me and I suddenly realized.

00:36:38 Lorri

So I don't even know, but anyway I didn't.

00:36:40 Lorri

Want to leave?

00:36:41 Lorri

Yeah, because my cat jumped on me.

00:36:43 Lorri

Yeah, love my cat. And it changed it just one little thing. It 1 moment in time.

00:36:51 Lorri

A switch happened, but I also realized I nothing has changed and I still don't have any money and my marriage is over and.

00:37:00 Lorri

I don't know what I'm going to do. I have no idea what I'm going to.

00:37:04 Lorri

Do with.

00:37:04 Lorri

My life. And that's the story real for me. That was for anyone. But it was a very scary place for me to be because I didn't. I didn't know how I was going to survive. And I had a.

00:37:13 Lorri

Lot of pressure on me, yeah.

00:37:16 Lorri

But I just realized that what I needed to do is all day long without ceasing. Pray, and I've heard that before, and it not necessarily. I'm not talking about getting on my knees and like praying, but in one way or another, be taking in. So I listened to Joel all day long. I I read Catherine ponder.

00:37:37 Lorri

I even like I got a Tony Robbins book. Yeah. You know, it's just.

00:37:41

But.

00:37:43 Lorri

And I did. I would do everything Catherine Ponderer said. And then the important thing for me, though, was to cut off.

00:37:50 Lorri

My energy and my life from Damien essential that I do that because I couldn't. I could no longer.

00:37:53 Merrily

Hmm.

00:37:58 Lorri

Be tied to him spiritually at that point, and that was the moment I started, really my own practice and my own path and and and we lead a very separate life spiritually. We'll talk about things, but we don't do any practice together. We don't. And that was I think in some ways.

00:38:18 Lorri

Essential.

00:38:20 Lorri

For me, but talk about miracles, I mean merrily it was.

00:38:26 Lorri

One thing after another would happen and I, I and and it was just it was slowly digging my way out and it took a lot of time. I was also like, had insomnia really, really bad at the time. So it was like.

00:38:28 Speaker 3

I don't know.

00:38:40 Lorri

Everything you know.

00:38:41 Speaker 3

Oh, gosh. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

00:38:41

Was.

00:38:44 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:38:45 Lorri

But over the court and it took years, it takes years to get to that place. And so it takes years to get out of it. But I've felt the ascension, you know, I could feel it slowly by slow, slowly. But I will always be grateful to Joel Osteen's videos, to his, you know, voice messages to Catherine.

00:38:48 Lorri

I mean if.

00:39:05 Lorri

Books to Emmett fox.

00:39:08 Lorri

To I would tape things up so I could read them every day. It was just.

00:39:12 Lorri

Constant I would not allow myself all day long when I, you know, I didn't have any work so it.

00:39:17 Lorri

Wasn't like a but.

00:39:22 Lorri

Miracles happened during that time and.

00:39:26 Lorri

And then also 2020 came in 20 like you were saying, 2020 was just like the beginning of.

00:39:32 Lorri

Everything new for us, so yeah, and.

00:39:38 Lorri

It's it's a. It's a strange thing to say, but I'm very grateful for that.

00:39:43 Lorri

Time.

00:39:43 Merrily

Yeah, I know. It's like, well, now, you know, like when you're in it. Oh my God.

00:39:49 Lorri

Yeah. Oh my gosh.

00:39:51 Merrily

Yeah, but now you can look back on it and like all the learnings that happens and all the teachers that came your way and all, you know, the methods that helped you through and your Kitty cat that help, you know, give you that little bit of a.

00:40:02 Lorri

Oh my God.

00:40:05 Lorri

Yeah. And and.

00:40:06 Merrily

It's nice to be here.

00:40:08 Lorri

I mean, I'm sure I mean that most people experience intense times in their lives, but do you know what I mean when I say?

00:40:17 Lorri

There's something about the intensity of those times that.

00:40:21 Lorri

Is.

00:40:22 Lorri

Very, very.

00:40:24 Lorri

You get to know yourself in a way.

00:40:25 Lorri

That that.

00:40:28 Lorri

You never thought you could. And when I say yourself, I think I'm talking about the Christ within. I'm talking about the real.

00:40:35 Lorri

So.

00:40:37 Merrily

Oh my gosh. Yeah, I have this like thing going like this. I have these like, weird. I don't know if.

00:40:37 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:40:42 Merrily

They're mantras or message anyway. What?

00:40:44 Merrily

But I have this thing about you merely need to stop saying never, because every time I say I'm never going to do that sounds dumb or what? I'm never going to. I freaking do it. I freaking wind up doing it. And so I'm like, how about I stop saying never? I like my braid is like pushing things away. When I do that, but it's like that's.

00:40:54 Lorri

Yeah.

00:41:03 Merrily

Probably the thing you need to be doing.

00:41:05 Merrily

You're like.

00:41:06 Speaker 3

You marry me.

00:41:08 Lorri

Yes. Yeah.

00:41:10 Lorri

OK, I know so much of what we say. Everything really.

00:41:17 Merrily

Oh gosh.

00:41:17 Lorri

That we speak, I mean, I try to be. I mean I do the same thing. There's so many things.

00:41:19 Speaker 3

Mm-hmm.

00:41:23 Lorri

I say that I'm.

00:41:24 Lorri

Thinking, oh, I can't believe I just.

00:41:26 Lorri

Said that, you know.

00:41:29 Merrily

Well, that's like the chaos of being human, right? It's like, like, gosh, I wish I could stuff that back in my mouth. That would have been better.

00:41:40 Merrily

But yeah, and of course you know, as magical practitioners kind of understand the the power of words, right like just.

00:41:47 Merrily

You know, it's the resonance of the universe. It's the power. It's the energy. It's the there's really a lot of power in it, you know. Yeah. And so that's like you putting up the messages every day. Like, you know, I mean, yeah. And I do think, like, the action.

00:41:56 Lorri

There is.

00:42:04 Merrily

The act of speaking.

00:42:05 Merrily

It is where it's at, like speaking it into the into here.

00:42:08 Lorri

Speaking it definitely. Yeah. I mean, I would know I during that time I would I think you could call me a.

00:42:15 Lorri

Zealot I was.

00:42:18 Merrily

You have to be right. You're digging out of.

00:42:20 Lorri

Ohh that yeah.

00:42:23 Speaker 3

Oh my gosh.

00:42:24 Merrily

Well, I'm happy that you know you're here, and then I'm happy.

00:42:28 Merrily

That you found the tools and people that could get you out of that space because that space is rough. I definitely had similar thing and but my teacher, what at the time was just forget the power of now.

00:42:34 Lorri

Yeah.

00:42:45 Lorri

Ohh that toy.

00:42:46 Merrily

I thought totally.

00:42:47 Lorri

Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. He was in there with me, too. He's amazing.

00:42:48 Merrily

I'm brain fart.

00:42:50 Speaker 3

Yeah, so, yes. Oh my gosh.

00:42:54 Lorri

Right. Like was it was. It propelled now.

00:42:57 Merrily

It was the yeah, it was definitely the power of now, which is, like, blew my mind because I feel like because I was what hold was that I was probably like.

00:43:05 Merrily

Mid like mid 30s or something like got laid off from my corporate job.

00:43:11 Merrily

And like, what do I do you?

00:43:13 Merrily

Know what do you do?

00:43:14

Good.

00:43:16 Merrily

Right, you know, went for a lot of long walks and listened to Eckhart Tolle, talked to me and.

00:43:21 Merrily

I think I have this other thing too. Like humans, we go through this phase of life. I do think like your 20s. Somewhere in there you're trying to actually like figure out exists in this world, right? You're trying to get a job. You're trying to like figure out housing. You're trying to, like, find relationships. Like you're literally, that's your focus. At some point, you're like, this is.

00:43:37 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:43:40 Merrily

There's not enough.

00:43:42 Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah.

00:43:43 Merrily

You need other things and so I think that's where you know the seeking comes in. You're like there's more than this. Like that can't be it. And so, yeah, I think Eckhart totally helped with that because he's like, there's this, this, this awareness that sits right here. And I'm like, what are you talking about, Eckhart?

00:43:57 Merrily

And then I would check in with it, yeah.

00:44:01 Lorri

Yeah, you're talking about, you know, you had lost your job in the corporate world and you think about how much identity is.

00:44:06 Lorri

Caught up in it.

00:44:06 Merrily

Oh my gosh, yes, yes.

00:44:08 Lorri

Know of who you are and what you're doing and when you would talk to people. And I do this and suddenly you're not there anymore. Yeah. And so it is a disintegration of self that you were going through and.

00:44:18 Merrily

Oh, for sure, yeah.

00:44:20

That.

00:44:21 Lorri

What? What better person to lead you through that?

00:44:26 Merrily

Yes. And like yeah. And so he would be like, yeah, there's this awareness that sits and you can tap into it. And I was like, OK, I'll try and then you do. And you're like, wow. And then when you do tap into it, it's there's this piece to it because it's just observing like you.

00:44:40 Lorri

Yes.

00:44:41 Merrily

Going bumbling through your.

00:44:45 Merrily

And you're like, OK, well, I can tap into that piece and like, not just play into the anxiety.

00:44:51 Speaker 3

Of.

00:44:51 Merrily

Living, which is, you know.

00:44:53 Lorri

Yeah.

00:44:55 Merrily

Because then you can't really solve your problems if you're just like in catastrophe mode the entire time you have to like.

00:45:03

Like absorb.

00:45:05 Lorri

Yeah, you have to get still. Yeah, yeah.

00:45:08 Merrily

That's what you gotta do, yeah.

00:45:11 Speaker 3

Ohh my gosh.

00:45:13 Speaker 3

UM.

00:45:14 Merrily

Well, so.

00:45:16 Merrily

Yeah, getting still. Do you think so? With that, do you think that?

00:45:21 Merrily

Magical practices kind of evolve or shift through the year. Do you find yourself doing certain things at certain times, or is it always sort of pretty stable?

00:45:31 Lorri

For me it's I feel it's constantly progressive.

00:45:35 Speaker 3

OK.

00:45:37 Lorri

Not so much cyclical or anything. I just find what?

00:45:41 Lorri

What it is I realize.

00:45:43 Lorri

Is I'm presented with something I need to work on and then I work on that and then I'm presented with the next thing.

00:45:46 Merrily

Hmm.

00:45:50 Lorri

That I need to work on.

00:45:51 Speaker 3

Branch.

00:45:53 Lorri

And so, you know, and some things can be harder than others.

00:45:56 Lorri

But.

00:45:59 Lorri

And then there's the ones that are just persistently, they're just always just always. So it's sort of, you know, kind of like the there's that the base of cons things that's constantly like watching what you say and this and then I'll have it's usually something something that comes up in life.

00:46:18

That.

00:46:20 Lorri

Forces me to have to work on it, so I would have to say it's.

00:46:23

OK.

00:46:23 Lorri

It's just the progression of things.

00:46:26 Merrily

Yeah, for sure. Ohh yeah. Thank you for sharing that. So with the sort of the progression, excuse me.

00:46:35 Merrily

And I hate putting it. I don't hate, but I I'm. I'm reticent to put it in this term of like, how do you find define like success like say?

00:46:46 Merrily

You know you're putting energy into something.

00:46:47 Merrily

How would you?

00:46:49 Merrily

Say that that is a completion of that cycle, I guess.

00:46:53 Lorri

It almost now I realize what it is I have.

00:46:56 Lorri

Never been able.

00:46:56 Lorri

To realize it until this year, it's peace.

00:47:03 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:47:04 Lorri

That's.

00:47:07 Lorri

Yes.

00:47:09 Lorri

Joy comes and happiness comes and I can wake up and feel elation, that something has happened or but.

00:47:11 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:47:18 Lorri

What I'm realizing is when all that fades away, if I'm still left with peace, then it's done and like, yeah.

00:47:27 Merrily

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely agree with that because it is like all this energy that you're building.

00:47:32 Merrily

Up.

00:47:33 Merrily

Toward the whatever you're building towards, and then it's like.

00:47:36 Merrily

Oh, there it is.

00:47:41 Merrily

Enjoy it now.

00:47:44 Lorri

Like there might be a, you know, and there might. There might even be a celebration if it's something big enough, you know, and you have it. But but that there's always that.

00:47:52 Lorri

If you come down, if I come down from it and I feel.

00:47:57 Lorri

Deflated then I know so that there's still something that's not.

00:48:02 Lorri

So yeah, yeah.

00:48:05 Merrily

That is perfect. Thank you.

00:48:09 Merrily

Well, sort of. The one thing I know this is like, Oh my gosh, I love prosperity topics because and we talk about prosperity quite a bit in the in the current and I love that because again, I feel like.

00:48:22 Merrily

I feel like.

00:48:23

Some.

00:48:23 Merrily

People are reticent to ask for things just in general, yeah.

00:48:26

Yeah.

00:48:27 Merrily

And I feel like, you know, prosperity, it just feel like I don't know. I this is like, weird uncomfortableness with prosperity. What's your perspective on it and how do we get more?

00:48:27 Lorri

Yes.

00:48:34 Merrily

Yes.

00:48:38 Merrily

In our lessons.

00:48:38 Lorri

Oh my gosh, I am so all about prosperity. And truly I say this all the time. One of my favorite books in the world is called Catherine Ponders. The dynamic laws of prosperity. I probably have it around you somewhere I need to.

00:48:51 Lorri

Hold it up.

00:48:53 Lorri

And I love it because she is a pastor, an old school. Like pastor. She's still alive. She lives. Yeah, she's in her probably 90s at this point, but she and, you know, people don't like to hear this, but, you know, she's full on poverty as a sin. We were brought here to live abundant lives.

00:49:14 Lorri

Joyful lives.

00:49:16 Lorri

And because we are God and you know, God created this abundant world and there's gold dust in the air. And I am all about prosperity, I am all about abundance and. And I think everybody has an idea of the level that they want.

00:49:36 Lorri

They may not.

00:49:37 Lorri

Want to talk about it or no? I think the problem is and you would understand this and the way you were raised, Lord, that church you went to or taught that it's bad people brought up that having money is bad or having prosperity is bad or living in A and.

00:49:47 Speaker 3

Mm-hmm.

00:49:50

Yes.

00:49:57 Lorri

It's just the opposite. I completely and absolutely believe it's why we're here to live.

00:50:04 Lorri

And money is divine substance. I believe that too.

00:50:08 Speaker 3

Yes.

00:50:09 Lorri

As are all the things that make us happy. You know, money and pets and loved ones and all these things are are abundance, health. It's all. It's all part of it. So when you start getting me talking about this so.

00:50:25 Lorri

Because and also you know there's, but there's there's rules to it.

00:50:31 Lorri

I mean, there's rules. You. I mean that there's there's a reason why, you know, you hear billionaires aren't half some billionaires aren't half, I don't know. But people a lot of people aren't happy.

00:50:42 Lorri

I mean, they're.

00:50:44 Lorri

That's, I mean, that's why that book is the dynamic laws. I mean, there are laws around this and.

00:50:50

Hmm.

00:50:51 Lorri

Divine laws.

00:50:53 Lorri

And I find that fascinating.

00:50:56 Merrily

Oh yeah, I definitely. I know you mentioned that book. I think the last maybe 2 times we had on.

00:51:00 Merrily

The current and I.

00:51:01 Merrily

Was like, so yeah, that was definitely still in the pile. It sounds so fascinating.

00:51:05 Lorri

Oh my gosh, it's every time. Oh, every time. And I'm listening to it right now. And Mitch Horowitz is the is, it's that he's reading it and it's old fashioned. I mean I I think some people might listen to it and think I can't believe she just said that, you know, like she'll say things like.

00:51:12 Speaker 3

Yes.

00:51:24 Lorri

You know, praise your husband. She's not saying it from like, a. It's she under? I mean. And I'll say this with all the love in my heart. I really do. But when I started really praising Damien and instead of, I would never say anything to rogatory to him. I just, I just wouldn't. I mean, I would have before in my life.

00:51:32

Yes.

00:51:41

Mm-hmm.

00:51:44 Lorri

And that led to not a lot of happiness, right? But now if he does something wonderful, I'm going to say.

00:51:50 Lorri

That.

00:51:51 Lorri

You know, and and and I think men and everybody, but I think men really love that. And I think if you can do that, so she'll say things like that. And and I think a lot of women might come off and find that, you know, a bit off putting.

00:51:52 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:51:57 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:52:08

Hmm.

00:52:09 Lorri

But try it, but try it if you're within with your partner, you know it's. But I think the way she writes it is she's, you know, she's a woman and she understands the way that these things work. Anyway, that's just one little thing that is, you know, is this very old fashioned way of looking at things.

00:52:22 Merrily

MHM.

00:52:29 Lorri

But.

00:52:30 Lorri

At the end of the day, everything she writes is she cites the Bible a lot, and there's so many.

00:52:35

Mm-hmm.

00:52:37 Lorri

Verses in the Bible that are about abundance, so on and on and on. How do you feel about it? Like, what do you feel about working like prosperity work?

00:52:40 Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah.

00:52:46 Merrily

Oh my gosh. Well, so many things, Laurie. We can talk about this for.

00:52:49 Merrily

Hours, I swear.

00:52:51

I know.

00:52:52 Merrily

But the thing that comes my right, I like to work with the planets because my mind works like I like to organize things, right? And so, and I know you know this, but in magic, there's a lot of correspondences. And so I think that's why, like like lit me up like, oh, great, I can organize this.

00:53:07 Merrily

So but I work with Jupiter a lot. It's a very strong placement in my particular chart.

00:53:14 Merrily

And he did a lot of meditations on Jupiter and did meditations on Hochma, which on the Tree of Life is where Jupiter is, and one of the things that came in is like, yes, prosperity or expansiveness, you know, wealth. All of that is definitely associated. But there is a component of charity and.

00:53:32 Merrily

City and like so, I feel like a lot of that's where we talked about sad billionaires like and then they go and do like spiritual retreats, right, to find themselves. I'm like, how about you just, like, give your money away or, you know, like spread it around your community? Because that's the Jupiter.

00:53:49 Lorri

Right, Yep.

00:53:53 Merrily

That's the Jupiter balance because Jupiter is like, I'm not going to be a happy King here sitting in my throne by myself. That's not fun. I have to spread this around.

00:54:02 Lorri

Yes.

00:54:03 Merrily

UM, yeah. So I feel like I'm. I'm so on board with how you put that and how, you know, Catherine Ponder is.

00:54:09 Merrily

Getting it. So I do think it's a sin and I yeah, and I definitely, yeah. Everybody was always tell me like I can't you. You can't want things you can't desire things and you it's bad for you. Why? Why? Yeah I think it is the number one thing especially you know we're on this particular plane.

00:54:31 Merrily

I feel like prosperity is like the thing that makes you believe, like there's larger things here. Like if you can change things.

00:54:40 Merrily

In this material plane, you go Oh yeah.

00:54:42 Merrily

Like this is great.

00:54:45 Lorri

Absolutely. And I want to talk about like what you just brought up, which.

00:54:49 Lorri

Is.

00:54:50 Lorri

One of the things that is so important to Damien and me is we get 1010% of everything we make for taxes to either help our someone in the community or teacher that we love or.

00:55:05 Lorri

You know that we started that, we started that. But I take care of the finances and our so.

00:55:10 Lorri

Started that back when I was digging myself out. I'm like we have to do this. I don't care if.

00:55:18 Lorri

Yeah, $200. You're going to give, you know, 20 of it to. Is that right, 10%.

00:55:25

Yeah.

00:55:26 Lorri

Anyway, and and it and actually Catherine Ponder, really. She teaches that and.

00:55:33 Speaker 3

Oh yeah.

00:55:35 Lorri

And and the fact that 10 is like is is is a mystical number.

00:55:39 Lorri

In the.

00:55:39 Lorri

It's all the stuff that's hiding, so I am. I'm so glad you brought that up because it is. That's one of the most important laws is.

00:55:44 Merrily

Mm-hmm.

00:55:50 Lorri

Share share your share with others and help others.

00:55:54 Merrily

Yeah. Yes, I think I think we're gonna break through that.

00:55:58 Merrily

Wall.

00:56:00 Merrily

You know, it's gonna go out.

00:56:01 Merrily

There and yeah, I'm. I'm very optimistic about.

00:56:06 Merrily

About that, that message. So.

00:56:09 Lorri

Yeah, me too.

00:56:12 Merrily

Well, goodness. Well, yeah. Tell us about sort of, you know, you do your tiny volts, which are amazing. You're a really wonderful writer. And we talked about the current. But you know, how does that all work with your the Patreon and.

00:56:21 Lorri

Oh.

00:56:26 Merrily

What you do?

00:56:26 Lorri

With actually really, you know, started Patreon, just kind of.

00:56:32 Lorri

I didn't just started writing and I was so surprised when I had anyone come on board and I don't. I don't say that from false modesty. I really don't. It's just truly.

00:56:42 Lorri

I just kind of put it out there and I don't do social media. And so you know what? And I had people come on board and I was so surprised and pleased. And so it I just the way that I think about it is in the way that I have been so greatly blessed by other people's stories. And I just I thought if I could write.

00:57:03 Lorri

In something that might help somebody or you know, just from my experience and I always try to.

00:57:09 Lorri

Tell people I I I agree with Damian. I I do not think of myself as a teacher. But if anyone can learn from my experience, that's.

00:57:18 Lorri

That would mean everything to me, so I started writing essays and then the current came up, which is very different because we meet on zoom every month. And so that I love that because it's it, you know, we can't meet in person and at least we can do it someday. I want to do it in person that.

00:57:35 Lorri

We want to. I want together, yeah.

00:57:35 Merrily

That would be cool.

00:57:38 Lorri

But then about a year ago or a little over a year ago, I started thinking about how much, Josh, those things I get his daily, like motivational things. He sends out a scripture and a little written message and how some days that gets me through the day and just hearing that can help.

00:57:56 Lorri

Me figure something out or give me something I need. And I thought you know what? I'm gonna try to do it. So start writing these. Just these little things and I write them every day. Just what comes to me and.

00:58:10 Lorri

Sometimes if it doesn't come to me, I do it the night before and then it comes out. But if it doesn't come to me, then it might.

00:58:17 Lorri

Come out later in the day but.

00:58:20 Lorri

Those have actually the tiny volts have actually become my favorite.

00:58:25 Lorri

Thing that I'm doing on Patreon. I just it's the for. I think it's the.

00:58:31 Lorri

Lowest or second lowest here and I wanted it to be more accessible to to as many, but I I they're actually help really helpful to me. They sometimes they're bringing me back to say thank you so much for bringing that up. My Patreon is.

00:58:44 Merrily

Yes.

00:58:50 Lorri

Truly.

00:58:53 Lorri

I think I'm so I I feel so blessed to be able to do it and to have that platform.

00:58:58 Speaker 3

Yeah.

00:59:00 Merrily

And is that where?

00:59:01 Merrily

That's pretty much where everybody can find you is on Patreon.

00:59:04 Lorri

That's all. Yeah, that's it on. I think it's just Lori Davis on. I have refined it on Patreon, but it's just Laurie Davis. Yeah, and yeah, that's I don't do any. I have a little secret just to recently.

00:59:20 Lorri

A a secret. And it's it's not secret. I mean, I'm on.

00:59:22 Lorri

There, but I don't do anything.

00:59:25 Lorri

And account because I've been using Instagram as kind of a an Oracle and.

00:59:30 Merrily

It kind of is, yeah.

00:59:31 Lorri

Yeah. And I'll ask it every day. Just give me some information that's going to be helpful to me today. And so and then it, you know, then it gets.

00:59:39 Lorri

In the cats. Oh yeah.

00:59:41 Merrily

Sorry, I'm not. I'm not shy about that. I'm like, bring me more.

00:59:45 Lorri

Of those, yeah. Yes, it's. Isn't it fascinating?

00:59:51 Merrily

Fascinating.

00:59:52 Lorri

And there's some really good people who have some very, very interesting things to say.

00:59:57 Lorri

About you know, spirituality and and astrology, the astrologists are are you merely I I you know I don't follow people. I actually I have I think I've followed some people in the beginning. Then I got like but I'm I'm gonna you gotta I'm going to find you so I can follow you do you do you do.

01:00:16 Speaker 3

Ohh yeah.

01:00:17 Lorri

Trilogy on there.

01:00:19 Merrily

Well, I probably should start. You know what? This is the synchronicity of. Like you saying this like I've been studying, studying it, sort of on my own and, like, figuring out the different, you know, cause I have to understand what.

01:00:32 Merrily

Things mean and like how does it work for me? Yeah. So I've been studying it, but I really should talk more. You're like, literally the third person that has said this to me. So I'm like, man, I really should just like, actually.

01:00:45 Merrily

Put up content about the third.

01:00:45 Lorri

That's the third, the third. The third time is. That's it that you're the you absolutely should do something on Instagram. I think you would be great. OK, definitely do it.

01:00:54 Merrily

OK. All right, Laurie, since you said, I gotta put my face out there more than I do.

01:01:00 Lorri

How to do it? Yeah, you do.

01:01:04 Speaker 3

All right. All right there.

01:01:05 Lorri

It's such a lovely place, dude.

01:01:11 Merrily

Thanks, Laurie. Well, yes. So we will, yes, I will send you and then yes, I will probably share with you some of my favorite.

01:01:20 Lorri

Ohh please do. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I have no idea. Damien, too. It's like, yeah, yeah, the cats.

01:01:28

Oh.

01:01:31 Merrily

Ants. Yes. If I could own, like all the cats somehow, like, have them with.

01:01:35 Merrily

Me. That would be great.

01:01:36 Lorri

I feel the same way. I love him so much.

01:01:40 Lorri

Do you have dogs?

01:01:41 Merrily

I I've had dogs in my life, my.

01:01:44 Merrily

Husband.

01:01:45 Merrily

My poor husband, he got bit in the face by a dog when he was a kid. Right? So I get it.

01:01:51 Merrily

You know kind.

01:01:51 Lorri

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:52 Merrily

Of not you know, but I've I love all animals I've had. Yeah, I've been blessed to be in a family that was animal lovers, so.

01:01:56 Merrily

You.

01:02:00

Oh.

01:02:01 Lorri

They're the best. They're just the I know I love them too. I love all animals. If I could have them.

01:02:07 Merrily

All if I could just have them all and I feel like, you know, as a, you know, intuitive person. So if you can like if you sit and like tap into your pet, Oh my gosh, they are the best at the present moment. They are the best.

01:02:20

Yeah.

01:02:21 Merrily

The.

01:02:21 Merrily

That moment they all the noise that we have in our head.

01:02:24 Speaker 3

It's like it's kind of silent so.

01:02:27 Lorri

It it is, yeah. And they will communicate with you in ways that.

01:02:33 Lorri

It's so amazing, yes.

01:02:36 Merrily

They're the best teachers. I feel like one of the best teachers that we have.

01:02:39 Lorri

Yeah, I agree. I ohh I completely agree.

01:02:42 Lorri

I know, yeah.

01:02:43

And.

01:02:44 Merrily

Well, yeah. Well, thanks Lori, for sharing all the wonderful things that you shared today and all your wisdom. I always after everybody shared their wisdom. I ask for more. So what words of wisdom would you like to leave us with today?

01:03:00 Lorri

I I'm just gonna say I think the the most important thing that anyone can do.

01:03:06 Lorri

Is just pay attention to how you feel in every moment, because the the goal is.

01:03:13 Lorri

Is to feel peace, but it's really wonderful to feel happy.

01:03:18 Lorri

So there's always a better feeling if you're not feeling very good and that all of us go through that, there's always a better feeling you can or go watch a a movie that makes you feel good. Find something to make yourself feel better.

01:03:33 Merrily

Perfect. Ohh, beautifully sad. Well, thank you so much, Lori. I'm so happy to get this time with you and share it with everybody.

01:03:33

So.

01:03:39 Lorri

Oh, early. This has been such a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me on. And I really this has been such a wonderful experience and so fun talking to you.

01:03:50 Merrily

OK. Thank you, Sam.

01:03:55 Merrily

Lori is an absolute delight and full of wisdom and deep compassion. Do take a look at her Patreon offerings as there is gold there for everyone. Do you remember to like, follow and subscribe on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform? It really helps us grow. Thank you for listening and being an important part of.

01:04:08 Merrily

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EPISODE 57 - LORRI DAVIS

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